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How neuroscience can help us understand music

shamantrixx


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Posted : May 8, 2007 04:11
Point is that you should read posts if you're interested in what is the point. If you did read them and don't see a point than you have just wasted your time.

But since you ask for point let me ask you something...
....who is to judge on what's interesting to other people or what is "bogus theory" and should that judge be a person who does not see what is the point - or he/she needs to be competent and understand the topic before making such a judgment?
          "It occurred to me by intuition, and music was the driving force behind that intuition. My discovery was the result of musical perception"

Albert Einstein, speaking about his theory of relativity
bukboy
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Posted : May 8, 2007 10:06
Shamantrixx - Dude I dont have time to read up on Plato. Can you please in a paragraph explain what popper has left out.
I mean u cant just say ur "not completely right" (ur wrong) or he's wrong and to find out Y you have to read up on it.
Its impossible to discuss anything with you because any A I bring up, u bring up M,N,O,P which is not directly related to A. Or if it is then I have to read up on it. Thats not a discussion at all.
What? popper is "leaving stuff out" coz u feel that science serves the interests of corporations? Thats not a successful challenge. U have to actually hear what he says and show that his theory contradicts itself. not just mention that u dont like this or that aspect of it. Y dont you ever directly discuss a topic?
Boobytrip
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Posted : May 8, 2007 11:20
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On 2007-05-08 04:11, shamantrixx wrote:
....who is to judge on what's interesting to other people or what is "bogus theory" and should that judge be a person who does not see what is the point - or he/she needs to be competent and understand the topic before making such a judgment?



Ehrm... Shamantrixx ?
shamantrixx


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Posted : May 8, 2007 15:41
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On 2007-05-08 10:06, bukboy wrote:
Shamantrixx - Dude I dont have time to read up on Plato. Can you please in a paragraph explain what popper has left out.



Please keep in mind that it's impossible to explain in few sentences what Plato devoted a lifetime to write.

Everything in our nature is folded in 4 layers. 2 of them are external and 2 internal. Those are:
1. object (like sun)
2. our sight of object (like sunlight)
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3. basic ideas (even when it's dark you know that sun exists)
4. platonic ideas (hard to explain in short terms

He describes the sizes of those 4 layers. 1st is the smallest and each next is 1.618 times greater then previous one.

Last layer is the most important one and the only one worth paying attention to.

To cut a loooooong story short look at this lecture. It will give an explanation far better than I could ever give you in such a short notice.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8109822533221897197           "It occurred to me by intuition, and music was the driving force behind that intuition. My discovery was the result of musical perception"

Albert Einstein, speaking about his theory of relativity
PlutoDelic
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Posted : May 8, 2007 21:22
Binaural Beats, that explained me why Derango nearly Astraled me away           PSYKS
Psycosmo
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Posted : May 9, 2007 02:23
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On 2007-05-08 03:00, Mike A wrote:
Who cares? Really...

Good music has been produced so far without any super frequencies and neuro science.

Adding some magic frequencies ain't going to make the music good.

So what's the point?

Better write music instead of make up bogus theories.




Well I doubt it would make bad music sound good but the experiment demonstrated that people prefer the sounds that include the frequencies above the hearing range.

What is this about bogus theories? Are you saying this paper is a "made up bogus theory"? If so, I am curious why. What do you think is bogus about it and why do you think they made it up?

@everyone else: Could we please stay on fucking topic instead of arguing about Plato and Popper and Einstein? These people really have nothing to do with the article that I linked to.
bukboy
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Posted : May 9, 2007 12:01
Psycosmo - Apologies dude.
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