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How much hum and noise is neccessary from a professional audio workstation...?

golem
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Posted : Jan 26, 2010 13:52:06
I have a computer that makes a lot of hum and noise. I always tought that for a powerful audio workstation it has to be noisy if you want there to be enough air circulation for it also to be stable.

I find it almost impossible to mix tunes when I have low volumes from the speakers and I don't want to destroy my ears by spending too long sessions with high volume.

How have you solved this problem?, how many fans do you think is neccessary for a modern audio computer (core 2 duo 6300, 2x 7200RPM hard disks), m-audio 1814 external interface. and what do you think are the best way to make the computer as quiet as possible..?
          
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GyPsynate
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Posted : Jan 26, 2010 22:18
I dont think you are asking the right questions.

You dont want ANY noise in a pro studio at all.
If you have loud fan(s) on your comp you either need a new quieter comp( some studio comps you can turn off the fan while your recording) or you need to make an isolated area away from your work space for your comp.
If you need more than the internal fans then you have a biger problem then noise.

There are lots of cooling systems out there like the liquid cooled you see in a lot of heavy gamer computers. Look into that.           \\\"Invoking the inner dancing buddha with future frequencies from beyond\\\" ~GyPsy
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Posted : Feb 7, 2010 18:00
IMHO the problem is not limited to recording, IMHO the best solution is remoting the pc in another room using cables, no noise at all, never.
Elad
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Posted : Feb 8, 2010 00:05
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they get so powerful this days.. i seriously dont know if i ever buy desktop again..

other than that i guess you can unplug the fan when recording.. or actually get the computer out of the room or something...

also you can record the 'room' and reverse phase it.. trick from movies sound editing          www.sattelbattle.com
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Fragletrollet
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Posted : Feb 8, 2010 13:10
I have passive cooling on both CPU and GPU, and a 12db Papst fan. I can only hear the harddrives, and barely.


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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Feb 8, 2010 22:13
My computer makes a noise that sounds like someone shaking a spray paint can. I just sample it, throw some plugins on it, and call it a lead.
Fragletrollet
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Posted : Feb 13, 2010 13:00
Haha yeah there are no rules. In the first track I released, Industrial Temple, the lead at the end of the track is actually the sound of FL when it crashes hardcore... so I recorded it in soundforge, restarted the computer, loaded the wav in FL and put a trancegate and delays on it... wha wha wha           http://www.myspace.com/fragletrollet
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makus
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Posted : Feb 15, 2010 17:20
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On 2010-02-13 13:00, Fragletrollet wrote:
Haha yeah there are no rules. In the first track I released, Industrial Temple, the lead at the end of the track is actually the sound of FL when it crashes hardcore... so I recorded it in soundforge, restarted the computer, loaded the wav in FL and put a trancegate and delays on it... wha wha wha




i know that sound, pure analog lol

my computer is quite noisy also. but the main noise comes not from fans, which are in fact quite silent, but from the chasis, which starts vibrating and makes z-z-z-z sound. but if one hits it with a leg it gets quiet again. now i'm starting to think which of these sounds would be more harmfull for a record... Good i'm not making any recording at home!          
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C3PO
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Posted : Jun 13, 2010 06:07
It's a common misconception that as long as you don't make any recordings in the same room with your computer - it doesn't matters how much noise your computer makes.

The thing is that it does matters, and it matters a lot. Even if you don't have a microphone, the noise will still affect your mixes. How? Any noise that you hear, directly affects the way you mix. Background noise reduces the SNR (signal to noise ratio) in your mixing environment, and as a result - simply blocks your ability to hear the small details, and make fine adjustments to EQ's compressors etc...

Silent environment is essential for mixing. To make your DAW silent: use passive cooling wherever possible, use additional heat-sinks for North Bridge or RAM if necessary, use large-size low-RPM silent fans, and reduce the number of fans in your system to minimum. However, those actions should be taken in consideration with maintaining optimal air-flow in your system, in order to avoid overheating of certain components.           >>> FOR SALE: Mac-clone OSX86 Audio Workstation <> Perfect computer for Logic 9 Pro <<<
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dija
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Posted : Jun 16, 2010 18:05
You can fix these problems with case vibration with dapening strips applied to the case where it goes together. Especially aluminum cases have this problem however aluminum is one of the most heat friendly cases you can have.           http://www.youtube.com/user/trawhi (tutorials)
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