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How much Chill/Ambient music do you "own"? And how long have you been collecting?
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Mar 14, 2011 16:56
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On 2011-03-14 15:33, Alienc wrote:
what did happen to beat agency btw?
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Check 8 posts above you 
  www.beatagency.dk |
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DjSchofield
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Posted : Mar 14, 2011 23:27
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On 2011-03-14 00:09, TechMonkey wrote:
Been listening/collecting ambient/chillout since the mid-90's. My total CD collection is about 1300 albums with another 300 or so in digital only format. I'd say the vast majority of those fall into "downtempo/ambient/dub/chill" with maybe 25% falling into the techno/trance/industrial/pop/rock/metal/world categories.
I have all my CDs ripped to either 320K MP3(older) or FLAC (past four years) and the total size is about 700GB of drive space. I do this because one of my biggest fears is what happened to Beat Agency. *My condolences.  * I could never replace what would be lost if something like that happened, so I regularly sync to an external drive and keep it elsewhere.
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I'm implementing a similar system. But haven't backed everythig up yet. And don't have an offsite backup yet either.
But most of my more recent purchases have been ripped to FLAC or are digital anyway. Still need to back up the rest of my collection and then create the off-site storage option too.
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Gunter
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Posted : Mar 15, 2011 00:50
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me too  |
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Abasio
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Posted : Mar 17, 2011 15:48
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I should probably do that but it would take me forever.
I have around 2500 CDs about 1500 of them are downtempo/ambient.
I need to buy me a huge external hard drive to put them all on.
What kind of GB/TB are we looking for that many CDs?
Wait.....What? |
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Gunter
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Posted : Mar 17, 2011 16:27
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2500 x 130 MB (assuming mp3 vbr 320 kbit/sec) = 325.000 MB = 325 GB, so you should be fine with 1 TB. Cheers ... |
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MARGHERITA
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Posted : Mar 17, 2011 19:23
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On 2011-03-17 16:27, Gunter wrote:
2500 x 130 MB (assuming mp3 vbr 320 kbit/sec) = 325.000 MB = 325 GB, so you should be fine with 1 TB. Cheers ...
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gunter dont do the vbr thing on your mp3 , you lose quality ... use CBR 320 with the higher quality encoder ....
for mac user i recomend this free soft
http://tmkk.pv.land.to/xld/index_e.html
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i own thousands of albums and sell many in the last years , especialy the LP/CD collection ,
after spending lots of $$$ in bilding a complete library (all styles)
now i'm focus only on "relaxed vibes" ....
i think all in all i still have something like 500 titles in bewten : K7 - CD - LP - DIGITAL - DAT - MINIDISC - ZIP & unrel cdr
i saved most of my collection on HD wav format ... who cares how many HD i need for that , is anyway less space than a uge fisical music library ...
http://mastermargherita.com |
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DjSchofield
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Posted : Mar 17, 2011 22:59
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^ Don't do mp3 full stop. Go WAV or FLAC. FLAC is about half the size of WAV and is the same quality (i.e. cd quality).
Abasio, I'm guessing you'd be looking at a couple of TB at least. Maybe more.
But well worth it for a $25,000 cd collection (assuming an average value of $10 per cd - so probably worth more than that once rare and out-of-print cds are taken into account).
The other factor I consider in this is that if I did lose my physical cds and i did not have a back up, I would not really want to spend new money buying old music (i.e. music that i previously owned). I would probably hit the torrent sites and get back everything I have previously paid for that I can find, and then maybe replace some of the others that I miss. That said, I lost my Roger Waters - Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking cd about 4-5 years ago and have never replaced it - even tho it is one of my all time old favourite albums.
back on topic now: yeah Master, i'm mainly focused on relaxed vibes now as well. And a little tech house/minimal stuff, and anything that resembles the dark-progressive-psy Zenon records sound. But overwhelmingly chilled music. |
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low orbit
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Posted : Mar 17, 2011 23:49
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I'd love to back up my CDs , I've well over 600 including the 250 chill ones but I never seem to be able to start the process , quite a daunting task sifting through them all ripping them one by one ... I've backed up many CDs to blank CDs for djing but never to an external drive . I've probably around 40 gb of purchased mp3's and flacs .
Off topic I know , but i would like to play flac files in iTunes on a pc but the Fluke website doesnt seem to work . |
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Gunter
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Posted : Mar 18, 2011 16:24
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For me mp3 allways was totally okay for backup (mostly I can hear no difference between 320 kbit mp3 and the original on my soundsystem). But maybe I`ll change to cbr now, concerning to master margherita`s hint |
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TechMonkey
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Posted : Mar 18, 2011 23:12
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On 2011-03-17 23:49, low orbit wrote:
I'd love to back up my CDs , I've well over 600 including the 250 chill ones but I never seem to be able to start the process , quite a daunting task sifting through them all ripping them one by one ... I've backed up many CDs to blank CDs for djing but never to an external drive . I've probably around 40 gb of purchased mp3's and flacs .
Off topic I know , but i would like to play flac files in iTunes on a pc but the Fluke website doesnt seem to work .
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AFIK, there is no way to play FLAC in iTunes. It's too bad Apple just doesn't embrace it because it's much more widely adopted than Apple's own lossless codec. If you are looking to play FLAC on the computer, I recommend Foobar2000. If it's an Apple device you're looking to play from, then currently jail-breaking so you can access non-authorized apps (like Media Monkey) is the way to go.
For the stuff you have in MP3/FLAC format, just get an external drive (~$80 USD) and use a free program like Synctoy to keep everything in order as you add more music to your internal drive.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=c26efa36-98e0-4ee9-a7c5-98d0592d8c52
When you get around to ripping, Exact Audio Copy or dBpoweramp Ripper are both great programs. EAC is completely free and DBPA has subscription fees to the album/song title databases.
As for the MP3 debate, 192Kbps VBR encoded with LAME is supposed to be a pretty good sound quality. From what I understand, the average person (99.999% of music listeners) are listening to their music on cheap ear buds or inexpensive stereo systems. I'm guessing those people wouldn't hear any difference if they listened to 192K VBR and FLAC back to back. Even with DJs, (from what I have read) most of those systems are simply loud and not high definition. People on the dance floor probably wouldn't know the difference either.
Most articles I've seen seem to indicate that high-quality and lossless really just benefit those of us who think we can hear the difference.  *runs*
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low orbit
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Posted : Mar 19, 2011 00:33
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thanks for the informative post Techmonkey , I'll certainly look into those programs . I currently use Jetaudio for ripping and listening to Flac files but I seem to be using iTunes more and more these days. There seems to be a program called Fluke which enables this but I think it may be exclusively for mac users .
ps. re mp3 - all I can say is do some blind tests on the system you most use , you might find some interesting results . |
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TechMonkey
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Posted : Mar 19, 2011 04:04
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Ah, I'm just playing devil's advocate. I have done some back to back and I do think I can hear a slight difference. Most articles I read on it tell me I'm wrong though.
Just checked on it and confirmed Fluke is/was Mac only.
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