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How much can i remove att the bottom of the kick

Hayez


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Posted : Dec 22, 2004 04:11
I just wanted to make my 100 post.

as for the post, use your ears. if you cant afford that then use a good spectrum plug-in.
the most important thing in a mix is balance and eq. turn the fx (reverb...) off and listen to the mix with just the bass and drums, and then start to add the other.           "a new art came into my mind which only you can create, the Art of Noises, the logical consequence of your marvelous innovations." Russolo, 1913
Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle

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Posted : Dec 22, 2004 06:46
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On 2004-12-21 20:41, Ajja wrote:
hi people

heres my motto:

kick = cut below 50hz
bass = cut below 50hz & reduce around 250hz to fit kick
synth = cut below 500hz
drum & percussion loops = cut below 500hz
hihat & cymbals = cut below 4000hz
psychedelic sounds (fx) = cut below 4000hz

this way your mix is split into distinct layers & your sounds wont interfere with each other...
not a rule... just a rule of thumb.

love & light




well no sub what so ever u say... i find it weird... i do reduce sub but i want 40hz to b there 4 sure
maxxbass i think do this shit very nice           www.sattelbattle.com
http://yoavweinberg.weebly.com/
br0d
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Dec 22, 2004 09:10
The bottom line for bottom frequencies is as such--if you do not know what they are doing, get rid of them. The second to bottom line is, don't lie to yourself about whether or not you know what they're doing.
Triplex
Triplex

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Posted : Dec 22, 2004 10:51
you can also touch the cone of your speaker and if its going in and out like crazy to produce a not-so-powerful kick and bass then something is going wrong.           http://triplex.trance.net
PRAECOX
Bigwigs

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Posted : Dec 22, 2004 11:55
Quote:

On 2004-12-21 20:41, Ajja wrote:
hi people

heres my motto:

kick = cut below 50hz
bass = cut below 50hz & reduce around 250hz to fit kick
synth = cut below 500hz
drum & percussion loops = cut below 500hz
hihat & cymbals = cut below 4000hz
psychedelic sounds (fx) = cut below 4000hz

this way your mix is split into distinct layers & your sounds wont interfere with each other...
not a rule... just a rule of thumb.

love & light





...what about a psychedelic voices singing lalalalalalalalal?           "Soft as possible" - Morton Feldman

http://jurekprzezdziecki.net/
Jupiter


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Posted : Dec 22, 2004 12:50
Most of the postings in this thread make no sense at all.Sorry.
If you talk about cutting you also have to talk about the cutting edge.For e.g using a 50 hz hipass filter with 6 db Cutting Edge will end up in a total different result as using 12,24,32 or 48 db cutting Edge.
Quantity and Quality a Universal Law.

Nice greetings
Jupiter
Boobytrip
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Posted : Dec 22, 2004 13:47
That's what i meant when i said 'roll off' instead of 'cut' low freqs.
Ajja
Yab Yum

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Posted : Dec 22, 2004 14:03
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On 2004-12-21 23:07, EYB wrote:
This is to much, i think u can go down to 250hz, depends on the sfx u want to make.



true, it depends on the fx you want. by sfx i meant the superclear little atmospheric sounds that sit on top of the track & make it sound trippy...
but as a rule i find that the more sounds you put in the same frequency range, the harder it is to get a clean sound.
in theory if your kick & bass sound warm & tight by themselves you don't need (or want) any other sounds coming into their frequency range, it will just fuck up your careful kick/bass work...
remember, its a guideline - not a rule thats written in stone

JUPITER: you are absolutely right. i was talking about a 24db cutting edge

          New Ajja album coming soon on Peak Records!

www.ajja.leufamilyiron.com / www.peakrec.com
Lithium
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  646
Posted : Dec 22, 2004 14:49
Quote:

On 2004-12-22 10:51, Triplex wrote:
you can also touch the cone of your speaker and if its going in and out like crazy to produce a not-so-powerful kick and bass then something is going wrong.




good one lolol
Top-down
Inactive User

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Posted : Dec 22, 2004 14:54
Quote:

On 2004-12-22 09:10, br0d wrote:
The bottom line for bottom frequencies is as such--if you do not know what they are doing, get rid of them. The second to bottom line is, don't lie to yourself about whether or not you know what they're doing.



Funny !

What do they do,these freq's ? I mean are you serious with this clishe - advice ?
Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle

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Posted : Dec 23, 2004 11:33
hmm with good monitors whats the problem?
and beside... anyone who stands near turbosound system can tell what sub freq do...           www.sattelbattle.com
http://yoavweinberg.weebly.com/
NikC
BeatNik

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Posts :  601
Posted : Dec 23, 2004 13:11
personally, i just feel that it should be a combination of quality and personal feeling,
whatever sounds good to you, but should sound good on a PR system as well... you don't necessarily have to follow all the production rules...
still, psytrance is possibly the best produced music in the world, and i believe it is important to keep pushing the quality of the sound forward...

p.s. can somebody recommend a good VST filter


Peace
daniel duarte
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  13
Posts :  219
Posted : Dec 23, 2004 16:14
to NikC:

Filtrator from Waves TCWorks

or

Antares Filter (very *heavy* but awsome)
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