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How many tracks should i use in 1 song ?
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Bone_Flute
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Posted : Sep 14, 2006 16:46
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Hi
when i make a song sometimes i have 20-30
traks in 1 Song.There4 Eq-ing
this 20-30 one bring drive my CPU usage
crazy  .
Should i use subgroups 4 Eq-ing or
copres. and other stuff ?
How many traks do u use in your arrangement ?
Is thre any vst-plgn with a bandpass filter
which i can automat in SX3 ?
I have also problems with subrouting
using the side-chain fx,i want 2 use only the fx(4 Eq or something
like this)not the original signal.
Is there a work around ?
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jivamukti
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Posted : Sep 14, 2006 19:02
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Do you mean effect or instrument tracks? It's common that psy tracks have many many instrument tracks. I usually have several dozen. I try to make such sounds that they don't need loads of effects, but often I have no choice but use fx to get the results I want, so I tend to have many dozen effects tracks too.
I don't think it's a very good idea to share an EQ with many instruments if the instruments are playing at the same time because usually the instruments require different settings (apart from a low-cut EQ for leads so they don't clash with kick & bass, for example). If they however don't play at the same time, you could share the EQ and use program change MIDI messages to change presets if that's possible for effects in Cubase. Sharing a comp for simultaneous tracks may be a good idea because using the same one for multiple tracks tends to make them gel together better, provided you can find a setting suitable for them all.
To ease the CPU load you could for example
a) freeze tracks,
b) render them into samples and play them in a sampler (uses far less CPU), suitable for effect sounds and kick & bass,
c) use compression, reverb and other polishing stuff only in the final mixing stage when you can freeze tracks that don't need to be edited any more or
d) use program change messages for synths so you don't have to load multiple instances of the same one.
There are a gazillion filter plugins out there and you can automate right about all of them in Cubase. Do a search for filters at kvraudio.com
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Bone_Flute
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Posted : Sep 14, 2006 19:45
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THX jivamukti 4 your fast answer !
Most Things u mentioned i do
I think "...c) use compression, reverb and other polishing stuff only in the final mixing stage when you can freeze tracks that don't need to be edited any more or..."
is a good advice.
I found an answer 4 the CB routing 2 !
(The quad group Ls Rs mehthod) a little
tweacky but works.)
Pls share your experience with me
how much tracks (FX and Inst)do YOU use
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psylevation
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Posted : Sep 14, 2006 20:14
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50-80 tracks on average, just depends though, sometimes I can get alot accomplished with less. I usually don't go sparingly on tracks, If I make an edit of something and it needs different fx or something then I'll make a new track for it. |
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Boobytrip
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Posted : Sep 14, 2006 21:38
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owww... everybody knows you need exactly 67 tracks  otherwise it just doesn't sound right
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orange
Fat Data
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Posted : Sep 14, 2006 21:43
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Pavel
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Posted : Sep 14, 2006 21:48
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My best results are achieved with 30 Audio Tracks, 24 MIDI tracks, 7 FX tracks, 5 Group channels, 5 folder tracks and 1 marker track.
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Freeflow
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Posted : Sep 14, 2006 21:50
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one track is enough!
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gill
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Posted : Sep 14, 2006 22:11
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e-motion
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Posted : Sep 14, 2006 23:19
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xrust
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Posted : Sep 15, 2006 01:27
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On 2006-09-14 23:19, e-motion wrote:
20-30... automations make magic 
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about 15-20 audio and 5-6 midi !and i have started to thinking that they re too mych 
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splinter
Splinter / Kode Six
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Posted : Sep 15, 2006 05:18
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depends how many tracks u wanna tweak at the end 
i usualy go about 25 |
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Posted : Sep 15, 2006 13:59
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as much as as YOU fell YOU need .. some people have upward or 60 - 70 is trheir music .. i think colin oood posted an image with his project .. wat was that .. 120 odd tracks ? ..wow  !! .. anyway .. i gather around 50 - 60 tracks in a professional psy track .. ?WOW ! lets have some pros post here how many they use |
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orange
Fat Data
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Posted : Sep 15, 2006 16:10
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Bone_Flute
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Posted : Sep 15, 2006 20:36
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50-80-120 (eq-ing each on 4 itself) ...WOW how can ppl handle this without subgroubrouting
by me my CPU f**** up !! |
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