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How many of you would sell your music on a music download service?
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dija
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Posted : Feb 28, 2007 22:48
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I was just reading the thread about CDs dying. I like the idea of selling .flac files.
How many of you would be interested in it and what do you think would be a fair percentage for the owner of the music? (keep in mind time spent with maintenance and server fees will be high since .flac is huge and also time spent encoding) |
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coSmiIic r080t0n3
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Posted : Feb 28, 2007 23:04
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me me  ........ but i havent yet started making music ... 
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Spindrift
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Posted : Mar 1, 2007 00:21
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I don't care how a label sell the music...as long as they give a hefty advance or let me retain the rights
The cost of space and bandwidth is not that high, and compressing to FLAC is fast...takes a few seconds to queue up hundreds of tracks.
Since the label don't have to put out money for printing and logistics cost has disappeared the percentage to the artist should be quite high for a download service I think.
From for example iTunes it seems like artists really get ripped of by the labels, but in the trance scene a common figure seems to be 25%....first the shop take half, then the label take half of that.
The shop have cost of creating and maintaining the website as well as payment transactions which can be quite a bit for a small transaction if people buy one track here and there.
The figure I ended up with for making sure I don't make a loss is 65% to the artist. Then I will not get anything back for developing the site but can pay for the hosting and transaction fees.
A commercial shop with many labels/artists represented would be able to be a bit more efficient due to a higher turnaround, but also want a bit of profit of course...so maybe 40-50% to them is fair...at least at this stage for a small scene like this.
Half the profit is usually what labels take for CD sales. There they need to put in a lot of cash they are risking, might get overstock or not have enough copies to satisfy the demand.
With downloads the labels need to do and invest a lot less, and hence deserve less of the cake.
Question is how hard would it be to submit the track to the shop itself for the artists...is it worth to pay someone half to do that?
Of course you have the mastering cost...and in some cases even promotion with some of the more serious labels so it could maybe make some sense. If they anyway do mastering cheaply and hardly do any promotion they maybe don't deserve half of the income and should charge less or do more.
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dija
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Posted : Mar 1, 2007 00:43
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I just looked and bandwidth is not the cost it used to be. Lucky us!
They used to rape you gigabyte by gigabyte but it seems they work in TB now
The project I am considering is a multi artist, multi label deal. It would be available to anybody who wanted to distribute their music (tracks must reach a production technical standard though).
Like was mentioned before, if downloading becomes commonplace then I see labels being near useless. The only medium that I see use for is vinyl. With the advent of ableton live and such even vinyl is fading (some ppl woudl love to kill me for that )
So I see a future of independent artists, like was already mentioned also perhaps the only thing an artist will need is public relations.
I have been considering printing a compilation in the near future funded by myself. What would the purpose be of this besides publicity ? So I am thinking of taking alternate routes with my releases. Such as releasing all of my music for free in 192 mp3 but maybe offering a .flac version for a small price. %100 profit to me and I think you get far more publicity on the internet than you can with printed media. There are the people who like to collect but I'm not one of them. I could care less what medium my music is on as long as the music is there and in high quality.
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Mike A
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Posted : Mar 2, 2007 00:37
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flac is the future
i'm up for it!
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faxinadu
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Posted : Mar 2, 2007 00:51
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there are already many many many... too many imo... digital download mega sites selling mp3s, wavs, flacs and whatnot...
also, most digital download sites pay you only once you reach a certain amount of money... somewhere between 20$-100$ depending on the site.
so the more you spread your tracks on various such sites, the less you will sell copies on one site, and end up with some sales on each one, but not enough to get the money....
in short, i think the digidownload mega sites provide a worse deal for artists than traditional labels.
the best solution is for each artist to sell his own music on his site.
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dija
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Posted : Mar 2, 2007 01:11
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I can understand that to an extent. Simply because you can't be writing 100 checks for 2 dollars per day. I think every $25 usd or something would be legitimate. However, if the service is discontinued the funds can be gotten. |
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faxinadu
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Posted : Mar 2, 2007 01:40
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Rah
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Posted : Mar 2, 2007 01:52
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On 2007-03-01 00:43, dija wrote:
I just looked and bandwidth is not the cost it used to be. Lucky us!
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It's not so much about the bandwith but the type of server you have, an even remotely serious store needs a server run by you, from your place with a good line or a dedicated server. We had some horror stories the first couple of weeks for that same reason. Now go look up prices for dedicated servers and you'll find is not a cheap deal either. Both online and offline distribution is expensive if you want to run a serious business.
as for FLAC, it's interesting but you are saving what... 200 mb's per album downloaded? nowadays that's not really that big a deal for someone that has the capability to download flac to begin with. The problem is wav runs on any computer, no worries, FLAC you need codecs and so on, not everyone knows what that is supposed to be. That's mostly why we went with wav instead.
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dija
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Posted : Mar 2, 2007 02:27
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Have you been successful? |
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Posted : Mar 2, 2007 02:44
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i like cds. however they do take up so much room, and it sucks when they get scratched.
meh. for selling my music. i have some songs made what not..not trance, more idm/experimental/amateur weirdness, but hey, if people were up to spending dollars and cents on it, thats fine with me
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dija
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Posted : Mar 2, 2007 03:28
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CDs are useless IMO. I'd much rather just carry a player around. Gotta take the cd out, put a new one in, put it back in its case, make sure you dont crack the case. etc.... too much hassle. |
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Naginalf
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Posted : Mar 2, 2007 04:40
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Rah
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Posted : Mar 2, 2007 05:18
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On 2007-03-02 02:27, dija wrote:
Have you been successful?
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Yes were, we put out fairly good compilation from artists that were worth the time and exposure... and it won't be the last time we do that either. It's not about the medium, it's about the feeling 
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Kane
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Posted : Mar 2, 2007 06:07
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This is a preference of the consumer, not necessarily the artist or label selling the material. What matters is how much the artist and label will be making off of the sales, although the concept would only contribute to "killing" CDs and record shops, an already hurting area of commerce in the world. |
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