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How is that killer FREq sound created?
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spaceinvader
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Posted : Aug 16, 2004 04:51
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http://64.226.81.210/sound/freq.mp3
Here is a clip from the new FReq album.
Not for any copying purpose, but for understanding how this killer sound is created -
Is it just one sound from a synth, or is it a combination of 2-3 layered sounds? How is that bassy, heavy, edgy, super-phat sound created?
many thanks!
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Posted : Aug 16, 2004 09:15
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Knowledge. . . .
And it's a good balance with eq- not cutting too much from the low so the lead won't be thin- compression possible, good reverb is very important to add some space to the lead and a little bit delay with feedback to make it all run nice together with some groove
peace,
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MoDu
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Posted : Aug 16, 2004 17:46
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Is it just me or there is a litle FM in there? |
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fuzzikitten
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Posted : Aug 16, 2004 18:28
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Modu,
How do you recognize the FM? (if you can describe it, that is). I'm always curious how people recognize different synthesis techniques. 
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Subtle Distortion
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Posted : Aug 17, 2004 00:07
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It sounds like a virus to me. Sounds like the oscillator mod sync is turned on and the pitch knob is being adjusted a little, either a middle or hard filter saturation. There might be a little bit of fm mixed and i believe there is distortion on it as well and a little delay. Most of the texture is in the osc sync mod and filter. Oh and it sounds like a triangle waveform.
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br0d
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Posted : Aug 17, 2004 08:57
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Sounds to me like one of those attacky AEG/FEG-heavy patches on a Yamaha analog modeling synth like an An1x or CS1x. I'm not a "schematic genius" so I couldn't really tell you why, but that's what it sounds like to me. |
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AvS
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Posted : Aug 18, 2004 19:11
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Subtle Distortion>> I agree. That's definetly a Virus sound.
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ZilDoggo
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Posted : Aug 18, 2004 23:54
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hmm. sounds like some chorusy sound (also propably some am and fm involved, you hear that when the sound plays realy low) put through a notch filter..,
the notch filter can give it that fat bloated sound i think,,.
anyway, i've made very similar sounds with all kinds of notch filters..,
so you could use a normal notch filter.,
you can also get a similar 'attitue' by using a very very short delay and mix it in with the original.,
this creates a comb filter.,
might be too heavy but ofcourse it also depends on the delay and the source.,
you can also use an eq to make a notch., depending on the eq it can give you similar results or not.,
and there are some forms of distortion/waveshapers that do something similar (they boost certain harmonics and lower others, creating notches in the harmonic series.,
the virus might have that kind of distortion, not sure, but the ppl here recognise it so.,
fyi to get consistent results form a distortion (so the same harmonics are boosted/cut) the sound needs to play at the same level., otherwise the harmonics will change.,
but this is not a big problem with lead sounds
and of course you can also use a phaser to get a (or several) notch(es).,
remember that a lot of plugs/hardware sound different and work differently.,
so there is no guarantee that you will get this sound with the tools you use.,
sometimes you need to try different tools to get the right effect.,
"Oh and it sounds like a triangle waveform."
subtle distortion, that does not sound like a triangle wave
unless it's heavily fm-ed, am-ed, synced or distorted.,
but then it's not a triangle wave anymore
but i think the osc are set to something with more harmonics than triangles have.,
i've done some xperiments and i definitely needed more harmonically rich sourses than normal triangle waves.
there is some fm there i think.,
and maybe some am.,
propably some sync too
also there seems to be a lot of chorusy stuff in there., makes it difficult to judge the high freqs.,
anyway.,
greets.
aka.,
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MoDu
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Posted : Aug 19, 2004 03:38
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fuzzikitten, you may recognize FM by a very quick change in spectrum ocupation, since fm is constantly variyng the sweep frequency. Do some experiments with something like a v-station you'll know what I mean. |
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Amygdala
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Posted : Aug 19, 2004 14:12
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Having recently accuired (spelling?) a Korg Prophecy, this is one of the most basic sounds to create on that beast... Zildoggo is probably right about the comb filtering - the Prophecy has these weird oscilators, that combfilter a noise source, and use that as the main sound. Two of those, sligtly detuned, and lightly filtered (lowpass) creates that sort of sound
- I looove the Prophecy
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PsyGoatDelic
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Posted : Aug 19, 2004 14:53
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wow prophecy man!!! it kick ass!!! sandman using it...
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ZilDoggo
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Posted : Aug 19, 2004 17:19
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" Having recently accuired (spelling?) a Korg Prophecy"
yes, yes!,
i remember now.,
it has exactly those plastic sputtering aliassed-ish low sounds
very nice and unique synth.,
greets.,
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Subtle Distortion
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Posted : Aug 19, 2004 20:56
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"Oh and it sounds like a triangle waveform."
subtle distortion, that does not sound like a triangle wave
unless it's heavily fm-ed, am-ed, synced or distorted.,
but then it's not a triangle wave anymore
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haha nit picky arent you  j/k actually i own a virus and i swear it sounds like one. In fact the filter saturation really gives it a way because i own a Korg z1 (same engine as the Prophecy) and the filters sound totally different. With a virus you have a a sine, triangle and a bunch of waveforms but this patch sounds like a triangle waveform with a little fm and distortion. I could be wrong but ive made this same patch on my virus. The comb filters in the Korg synths are cool but they're more metalic sounding then this IMHO. Oh well. the artist should just step in the thread to settle it once and for all
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spaceinvader
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Posted : Aug 19, 2004 21:00
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On 2004-08-19 20:56, Subtle Distortion wrote:
Oh well. the artist should just step in the thread to settle it once and for all
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Yes...would be cool to hear FREq's answer on this one! |
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