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Posted : Oct 14, 2011 00:31:09
For a couple of years i have been learning how to use my synths, and quite a lot about synthesis.
Now days i often succeed in analyzing psy and teck tracks to find out how they made their sounds, and how the tracks are built up and so on.
It helps me a lot in understanding and learning about synthesis and how to create the sounds that are swirling around in my mind...
But some track are so føkkin far out genius made that i have no idea whats going on...
anyone up for analyzing this one and posting how these sounds are made?
I am like 98% blank on every sound here...
This just might be the most awesome dark/forest track ever made, what do you think?
Dohm rules the moss!!!
Remy [POF]
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Posted : Oct 14, 2011 03:37
sorry for that... but i don't think that these sounds are very complicated, the synths sounds are very unfiltered and there is just usual fm and lfo filters, delay and some reverb that you hear almost everywhere, try to analyze some sounds made in Amon Tobin's last album ISAM! that's complicated!!
here is a head scratcher just for you!
On 2011-03-08 23:13, moki wrote:
listening only to free music is like having the free possibility to satisfy yourself with thousends of different free sexual acts.
NaturensKraft
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Posted : Oct 14, 2011 03:43
Yup i know, sometime u have to be a noob
hahahaha, yes, its all samples... awesome album!
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Posted : Oct 14, 2011 03:47
but i still don't think the sound's are pretty hard to make, or i also suspect the complex arrangement maybe makes it harder to hear... but of course there are saw's with fm like typical... but it sounds like there is much more to it than that.
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Posted : Oct 14, 2011 03:48
If I weren't a noob i wouldn't post here for help from you more experienced guys
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Posted : Oct 14, 2011 03:52
amon tobin uses a lot of live recorded samples.
Remy [POF]
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Posted : Oct 14, 2011 05:16
amon tobin records every sample in his music himself... the guy is a fucking master...
On 2011-03-08 23:13, moki wrote:
listening only to free music is like having the free possibility to satisfy yourself with thousends of different free sexual acts.
Remy [POF]
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Posted : Oct 14, 2011 05:18
some videos!
it also helps when you have expensive gear.. like this Haken Continuum fingerboard...
On 2011-03-08 23:13, moki wrote:
listening only to free music is like having the free possibility to satisfy yourself with thousends of different free sexual acts.
loki
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Posted : Oct 14, 2011 06:33
OP, what sounds specifically do you want to know?
They shouldn't be too hard if you have basic knowledge of synthesis, but I can try to get you a head start if you give me specific sounds.
There are a lot of FM sounds darting around, lots of hipass saws with pitch squeaks (classic psy sound), and there are some really cool patches with what sounds like parallel bandpass filters being used to create organic, formant-like sounds.
Good tune.
p.s. synths are awesome, but these folks are right, sometimes nothing substitutes for what you can do with a microphone. think of the forest psy sounds you could make using human gutteral vocal noises or whispers with pitch-mod delays, reversed and reverberating burps, etc etc... SO ORGANIC!
i'm being completely serious.
i think one could BE the Amon Tobin of psytrance, and that would be SO cool.
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Posted : Oct 14, 2011 10:27
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Posted : Oct 14, 2011 16:18
Quote:
On 2011-10-14 05:18, Remy [POF] wrote:
some videos!
it also helps when you have expensive gear.. like this Haken Continuum fingerboard...
Wow that is totally amazing. Such clear and good sounds aswell, i get very motivated to start to record and transform more!.
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http://soundcloud.com/mechanical_species
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Posted : Oct 15, 2011 06:50
i don't really get amon tobin... sure it sounds 'cool' ... but i can't for the life of me picture actually listening to this on my mp3 player...
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Posted : Oct 16, 2011 01:49
but hey, OP. i was listening to the track you mentioned while doing some algebra.
it occurred to me.. i think the sound you are mystified about is achieved by filtering an FM waveform with a vocoder. it's all about tweaking the modulating signal to make the sound interesting. it kinda sounds like he timestretched, repitched, and cut up some vocals, then fed that into the vocoder, which is applied to a metallic FM lead sound.. experiment with that
faxinadu
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Posted : Oct 16, 2011 05:57
all you need is a creative mind and a will to work hard.
the amon tobin is nice but it isn't magic, just hard work and dedication.
sounds like grm tools on the drums (on the tobin vid).. or something similar. some nice fx with automations then record it all and start slicing...
my point is, if you get creative, you will have creative. if you just use 2osc va's, romplers and samplepacks and see your role as an arranger/midi composer... then you will always sound generic.
you don't even need expensive tools... those are fun to have but not essential.
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Posted : Oct 17, 2011 16:00
[quote]
On 2011-10-14 06:33, loki wrote:
OP, what sounds specifically do you want to know?
many, any, all of them...
no, just kidding,
the phasing sound that comes at 0:24, and the one at 0:35, but the one at 0:47 is the most intressting one... and yes it makes sence if it is a vocoder like hearttricks says... hmm
