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How do you 'visualize' psytrance?
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aciduss
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Posted : Aug 11, 2008 02:51:59
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Musical mandalas? psychedelic pinball? Tunnel trance ride? I mean, this is why i fell in love with psytrance in the first place because it made me trip about or visualize certain things.
I supose many of you think about this stuff when layering sounds on fast beats. I mean, you think about how it is going to sound on a PA and on people minds (sum of them under the influence of mind expanding substance).
I gues i just wanna know how other producers think about the sound crafting when producing this particular style of music and in particular situation like applying reverbs, delays, filter automation, etc. i know it is a little about psychoacoustics and a little about imagination.
wanna share?
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realtime
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Posted : Aug 11, 2008 03:10
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sounds, that can make you trip when not doped are even "worse" when you're fried,
since mind expanding substances act only as an amplifier.
once you experienced and understood that mental level, it's easy 
and i think it's a lot about abstraction,
since there is a link in the brain between the senses, which you *just* have to trigger.
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aciduss
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Posted : Aug 11, 2008 03:53
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I like that. The triggering link thing. Make the audience used to certain pattern the twist it and create surprising emotions.
Sometimes i think of it as a firecracker setup in which a part is burning heading upwards just to fire up some more systems.
It has to do with directing the audience attention right? I assume many of you have your special ways to surprise or get attention, many of them are cheese other can be really creative process or simple like a phased lead on a break that makes you feel inside a maniac mary-go-round or nice delayed sounds with pitchbend on the wet signal.
In fact is here when i believe one crafts its on style or at least one big part of it. Because you find some technics to direct the sound or make people believe / feel whatever you want to.
For example i love those highpassed crushed things that actually sound like the sparkle of a fire cracker just after a big build up or somewhere you wouldnt expect it.
Or the feeling when a reverbered signal is chopped... well there are many i find interesting but i want to know the ones you like.
BTW if this seems like a stupid post please let me know im actually under thc and wanting to explore isratrance users opinions don't know if i am taking this too serious but i find it quite amusing. |
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splinter
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Posted : Aug 11, 2008 04:32
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I just make what i like to hear man.
i really dont visualise anything at all..
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aciduss
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Posted : Aug 11, 2008 06:17
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how boring |
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Pythagoraz
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Posted : Aug 11, 2008 07:29
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Hehe I do indeed visualize weird stuff when i make music... in fact -my whole arranging of the track structure/ evolvement is more or less based on my inner visualisations.
For some reason i normally see some kind of weird organic "structure" thats pulsating to the rythm of the track while moving forward through some scape, be it a somewhat realistic landscape or a psychedelic colorsplash. The more trancy the track is, the faster the images move and chance form.
usually slower, more heavy and dirty tracks fills my mind with darker and more scary images.
 -all that stuff is probably why I too fell in love with Trance.
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ohshit
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Posted : Aug 11, 2008 08:35
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ultraviolence
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Posted : Aug 11, 2008 10:16
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realtime
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Posted : Aug 11, 2008 21:07
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ultraviolence: scary signature you got ...
maybe my braincells not behave like they should ... but they work 
autism is basically the absence of mirror neurons ... which are responsible for emphaty.
guess they are responsible for feelings caused by audio input, too.
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ultraviolence
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Posted : Aug 12, 2008 02:08
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Hey realtime
It's actually a quote from New Scientist magazine I just found this particular quote real awesome, wanted to find a spoken sample of this and drop it into a night time track (it is scary, I agree ) but could not find an audio of this, so made it my signature for now
-------------- Dark & Twisted Night Psy --------------
https://www.facebook.com/Ga73k33p3r-322985384842830/ |
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Boobytrip
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Posted : Aug 13, 2008 01:21
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I only visualize a crowd dancing to my music (outdoor/indoor) and then try to make something that makes my skin goosebump. |
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aciduss
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Posted : Aug 14, 2008 00:33
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I don't know why but i really expected a lot more on this subjet, specially on this forum.
I thought isratrancers would have a more imaginative and creative mind and the will to expres and share insights about mental pictures when producing.
Maybe it is a pointless thread and its ok, i really thank your posting so far just thought i could get much more richer answers from you audio geeks.
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Sixofour
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Posted : Aug 14, 2008 01:25
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Well, this will likely sound like bullshit, but i think what you feel depends on what you are listening to.
I define Psy and Goa drastically differently. To me psy is like, dancy stuff with trippy sounds, and a horrible bass. [i can't stand that typical 303 1 note bounce....the sound is fine, but its as if people who make psy, hate melody, and they don't melodicize their bass. And you get this pulsing thud that doesn't take you anywhere] sometimes psy tracks don't even have a lead melody, its a kick and a bass with some FX and psy-y sounds.
But a Goa track on the other hand, is the kind of track with a phat lead and melody, and sometimes even a harmonized bass. Sometimes. Stuff like Astral Projection- Mahadeva and Cybernaut - Hydrophonics...they have spots that just scream Goa [while others scream dance...] They want to invoke some kind of emotional response, something dancing can't even fathom.
Psy to me is a track other people dance to, Goa is a track that takes me to space on an astral ashtray named bob who can sing without a mouth while flying through a super nova. Most of the imagery that comes to mind is darkness with colored lights and shapes, almost synesthesia like, but not fully.
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vigge
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Posted : Aug 15, 2008 00:05
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Depends what type of track really but sure i visualize it. Anything from some kind of morphing pulsating organic machine in space to a foggy temple in the sunset to just quirky burning patterns. Don't really understand the question tho since the vison change often within a track.
BTW if you don't visialize it you miss out i think. |
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OpenSourceCode
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Posted : Aug 15, 2008 05:51
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the real neuro stuff always created this visual in my head of a giant silver and red bullet train rushing at me and past me. It's always the same train.
when i produce, I try to get the music to invoke that train. |
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