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How do you setup a live set in Ableton live
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Maikel Svenson
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Posted : Jul 2, 2012 23:35:36
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Hey guys
How do you set up af live-set in ableton live using tracks from other artists |
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Kolishin Methud
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Posted : Jul 3, 2012 00:47
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Kolishin Methud
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Posted : Jul 3, 2012 00:47
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-=Mandari=-
Mandari
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Posted : Jul 3, 2012 13:01
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Darkfire
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Posted : Jul 4, 2012 13:05
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On 2012-07-03 13:01, -=Mandari=- wrote:
i guess this is more the kind of what you´re looking for.....
http://vimeo.com/1701545
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mandari is this only if you have produced your track in ableton? |
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soulfood
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Posted : Jul 6, 2012 00:52
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Whatever sequencer you are using you route appropriate selections i.e Kick + bass, Pads + ambience, acid lines + leads, percussion etc to group tracks and record the outputs of these tracks to produce some workable stem tracks.
Then you load those stems into ableton. |
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knocz
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Posted : Jul 8, 2012 18:30
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Your question is "how to make a live dj set in Ableton", and those two works conflict: if it's a "live act" it's not a "dj set".. but whatever.
You probably have other peoples tracks (in MP3 format -> try only to use the highest quality ones), so you can't access the individual stems.
You can try some weird techniques to extract some individual stems of a track (like phasing one side, or using the utility in Ableton and put the width parameter to either 0 or 200, but that can really destroy the quality of the tune, EQ, etc.) - or ask the original artist for some stems (and good luck if anyone responds)
To mix the tunes you already have, load the tracks in Ableton and do as Kolishin Methudshowed showed in the first videos. Here you can slice the track up and make loops so you can play in session view: make a clip of the beginning beat so you an mix intro it, than say you like only 3minutes of the song so make a clip that slices out only that 3 minutes. At the end of that clip, make it loop.
Or make even smaller loops, like 2 minutes or one minute, so you have freedom whilst playing. If you have set your markers correctly, than the beat matching part is eliminated from the equation, and you just need to select what comes after what - and you can do so much more in Ableton than with plain cdj's (but still, someone who knows how to play with CDj's will be better than someone with the most powerfull playing system on earth, but doesn't know how to use it..).
A particularity comes to mind: one of the best genres to DJ is techno - a grand DJ in that scene can have 4+ decks spinning at once (and a master DJ can beat match them all!), and since that genre states the music has no structure (it's just loops and changes the beat every even number of bars), this is quite possible (because one song wont go into the chorus while the other has a small 4 beat Outro and the third song stays with the verse - these structural concepts don't exist in [at least old school] techno) So you might have 2 tracks playing: one only the lows (the beat) and the other only some middle highs. a minute later you can bring in another track to fill the middle freqs, and use your forth track to replace the beat, and use the previous beat track to fill the highs, than play a filter+flanger+redux for 4 bars while you change what each track was doing (the middle becomes the bass + highs, the highs become the middle, etc.) and when you bring it back, it's a whole new ambient, with a different texture - while having each track looped for a great couple of bars!
IMO that's why techno DJ's are the best, because their genre allows them to do this - play around with the structure and mix each section in a live situation - whilst in trance due to the musical structure, it's hard to have two tracks playing on top of each other.
But, if you are really selective within your tracks, and have lots of 1/2/3 minute bits cut out of your favorite "other peoples tunes", you can be more of a joker playing around with the loops and building your own structure, making the flow.
We (people of IsraTrance who try to actually play live instead of the community of fake acts out there who have grand skill on pressing the space bar twice a show) like to do this with our own tunes - because we can render and access each individual stem (no need to EQ them out like a DJ) and rearrange the whole thing live.
Just want to point out this is about Ableton Live - don't want to dis people playing live in other DAWs or systems or manners. The main idea is use the session view, and if you don't touch the computer / controllers, than the music will just loop to infinity. You need to make it go forward. There are other concepts of live playing (i'd like to see someone doing all I referred while playing an electric guitar), but that's not a "specific trick" made available by Ableton. Whatever you do, just DON'T place all other peoples tracks in arrangement view and set them up mixing end of one track to beginning of the next, for that I'd rather listen to a Winamp playlist, because then the audience can see it's awesome visualizers!
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-=Mandari=-
Mandari
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Posted : Jul 11, 2012 22:13
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just wanted to leave that i misunderstood the question. there is no way one can do a live set with the tracks of other artists. this is paradox, because one can only play live if one owns or steals the original project files and records like shown in the vid. for the last thingy....... i do not recommend, anyways happened already ^^
so yes, this applys only if you did the track. you can dj with ableton like shown in the other video. but to access and trigger those loops, you need the stems. so you wont ever be able to play live someone else, if you dont own stems of the original project, which you only will be able to get by the artist his/herself.
if one will do that you can imagine yourself....xD
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DjSchofield
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Posted : Jul 13, 2012 01:21
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That first video is a good one. I've been doing it differently. But then, I have noticed, lots of people dj with Ableton and set it up in different ways.
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krave
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Posted : Jul 28, 2012 16:51
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Ableton still doesn't care and will call everything a live set regardless of who's tracks are in there  not Maikel's fault |
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