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How do you run Logic's ES M synth on Cubase (HELP!!)

Sensay


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Posted : Sep 19, 2005 18:53
Hey there,
the thing is i've been trying for ages to run logic's esm bass synth on cubase, because i heard it was possible (something to do with the spark machine plugin).

I would really apreciate it if anyone could explain to me how this is done.

i love that phat bass

thanks in advance
mubali
Mubali

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Posted : Sep 19, 2005 23:56
Unfortunately it isn't possible unless you run 2 different machines and midi sync them together. Logic's native plugins are in a completely different format that what Cubase sees plugins at. Another option is to sample your bass in Logic and import the bass waveform into a sampler...           An Eagle may soar, but Weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
Sensay


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Posted : Sep 20, 2005 00:15
Thanx bro,
so theres no way, not even by using an external host that can read audio units and vst?

is the esm an audiounit?


thanx bro take care
mubali
Mubali

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Posted : Sep 20, 2005 00:35
no. the ESM is a completely different format than what is used for 3rd party synths and fx. As far as I know there is no way to run logic's onboard fx inside any other sequencer except for Logic.           An Eagle may soar, but Weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
Life Style
Life Style

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Posted : Sep 20, 2005 06:15
I think Mubali is right... the better way is to export the ESM as audio (u can bounce it), and use it as a sample in cubase.

I heard some people who use cubase do that. Thats why logic rules... ES2, ESE and ESM.
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Posted : Sep 20, 2005 22:32
From what i know the logic have the most killer synths!!!
i really want to use the ES-2 but (ahhhhm) CUBASE SX3
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Sep 21, 2005 16:53
Triton told me he'd seen it done, on an Israeli artist's PC.           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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Bio Genesis
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Posted : Sep 21, 2005 21:08
Asher from Skazi told me it could be done using the spark bundle and something called the chiner, or chyner, but i think the plugin is only for pc.

i personaly, havent done it, but if anyone finds out please let me know how it works

mubali
Mubali

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Posted : Sep 21, 2005 22:08
hmm... well if anyone figures it out, let me know... That's one of the reasons why I haven't switched to Cubase yet.           An Eagle may soar, but Weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
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Posted : Sep 22, 2005 08:54
i know there are some progams that allow you to create virtual inputs/outputs, but this would mean having to open logic and cubase and using them together, something that does not make sense at all.

but there must be a way... for example i use vb1 on ableton live, i just copied the .dll and live was able to run it with no problem

it would be very nice to be able to use esm in other programs...           Psychedelic Trance from Argentina
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Sensay


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Posted : Sep 22, 2005 19:07
Hi thanks for all the help. I will keep looking and if i find something out ill post it.

Sensay
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Sep 22, 2005 20:17
Quote:

On 2005-09-22 08:54, filter wrote:
but there must be a way... for example i use vb1 on ableton live, i just copied the .dll and live was able to run it with no problem



VB1 is a VST-compatible virtual instrument though, and as such is designed to work on any VST-compatible host. ESM is not so much a plugin as a part of the Logic program itself (apparently...) and should therefore only work in Logic.

Quote:
Bio Genesis wrote...
Asher from Skazi told me it could be done using the spark bundle and something called the chiner, or chyner, but i think the plugin is only for pc.



Maybe he meant this?
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mubali
Mubali

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Posted : Sep 22, 2005 22:44
All of those type of things support VSTs... The native plugins for Logic are not vst format... On a slightly related note, are the native plugins for Ableton live in vst format? I didn't think that they were, but it would be pretty cool if that were the case...

Or, what about the tonic for cubase... The one thing that I have never quite understood about Logic was the fact that their filter fx weren't too great...           An Eagle may soar, but Weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
Colin OOOD
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Posted : Sep 24, 2005 00:12
I've just been told that I'm mistaken. What Triton saw was EXS-24 running under SX: this was released by Emagic as a VST plugin. Sorry to raise hopes.           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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mubali
Mubali

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Posted : Sep 24, 2005 00:33
Ah... yeah I knew about the EXS-24 VST instrument, but was kinda hoping that there was a way to pull off the other instruments too...

Anyway, Colin is the tonic for Cubase a vst instrument? I am a filter geek and sometimes the filters I normally use (Antares, PSP Nitro) are a little too expensive resourcewise for my computer...           An Eagle may soar, but Weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
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