Chimp in Space
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Posted : Mar 29, 2011 05:11:18
Hi guys
I am struggling to fit my synth shots/stabs in my mix as clean as possible. I was wondering how you guys do it. especially reverb settings, and the effect chain. And do you guys use compressor on them? Any delays?
A good example would be any melodic psytrance song coming out of utopia records. If you would like an example listen to the 2 examples I posted here.
First example at 1:33 - 2:26
Second example at 1:19 - 2:37
And btw anyone have a clue how to recreate the house stabs you hear first and being like a melody in it self pretty much.
makus
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Posted : Mar 29, 2011 20:04
true, main thing is correctly tweaked synth. filter evelope in particular. then compression. 250 ms of attack might be even too long.
besides compressor transient shapers are helpful for that.
demo anything you can get - sonnox transient shaper, schaak technologies transient shaper, built in cubase envelope shaper if you are on cubase, spl attacker etc www.overdreamstudio.com
Soundmagus
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Posted : Mar 30, 2011 01:05
You dont necesseraly need compression to make these "stab" effects, just control the sound with both the AMP and Filter envelopes.
nice short envelopes then you can add short delays and small gated reverbs to them even to make them bigger and/or fit in the mix easier.
Mark
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magner
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Posted : Apr 7, 2011 01:03
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On 2011-03-30 01:05, Soundmagus wrote:
You dont necesseraly need compression to make these "stab" effects, just control the sound with both the AMP and Filter envelopes.
nice short envelopes then you can add short delays and small gated reverbs to them even to make them bigger and/or fit in the mix easier.
Mark
Indeed you're right, good job with those tutorials btw, very informative and worth every penny http://soundcloud.com/mejinuf
On 2011-03-30 01:05, Soundmagus wrote:
You dont necesseraly need compression to make these "stab" effects, just control the sound with both the AMP and Filter envelopes.
nice short envelopes then you can add short delays and small gated reverbs to them even to make them bigger and/or fit in the mix easier.
Mark
Well its not a necessity, its just a compression method to add stabiness to some sounds.
250 ms is because im not playing with transient its just giving the sounds a short stab than compress a lot so its sounds shorter. Instead of tweaking directly in the synth its adding a secondary enveloppe.
My music http://soundcloud.com/disrupted
aciduss
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Posted : Apr 8, 2011 00:12
I believe is better to tweak directly from synths when possible... trying to fix stuff with compressors is no good idea... only if that extra punch cannot come from source synth.
Is it that bad to use compression i mean it did help in that case, even tho i tried with synthesis getting that decayed sound it wasnt as nice as that.
One thing I've become rather fond of lately is adding just a liiiitle bit of distortion on stabs/leads to make them cut through the mix nicely. Works really well if your sound lacks a bit of extra sparkle
Vermeee
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Posted : Apr 14, 2011 12:20
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dang this kind of music got old uhn ?
not that it s bad , not judgin in here but for my ears it got old.... it sounds like listenin to michael jackson - thriler lol but its fun anyway and have energy... but dang the first video and the second sounds basicly the same track lol sounds like they are usin the same midi clips same synths just changin a few tweaks...
and feelings? omg the grandfather astrix didnt taught their pupils well ? EMOTION S CHAOS...
I will put your kind advises into practise now.
( im includin me aswell haha )