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Saii
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Posted : Aug 4, 2008 23:04:35
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hey guys,
when im makin a track and have it say at -27 db on my monitors..let say it sounds very good quality wise....but then as i turn up the volume, the quality changes my kick sounds crappy, my synths lack presence, etc...
why does that happen???
basically, what im asking is, how do you make the quality of a track sound loud (with limiters and compression) and at the same time be consistent no matter how loud its played....say, at an outdoor rave for example...
thanks guys
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Suloo
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Posted : Aug 5, 2008 00:38
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 listen to it loud when it comes to mange sound qualitie..everything else makes no sense..
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neogen
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Posted : Aug 5, 2008 02:36
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maybe when you turn it up, your room acoustics are making it sound different. |
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Crying Orc Project
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Posted : Aug 5, 2008 09:35
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for basic knowlage.
the volume that musician need to work with in order to hear the they work in the best way that they can is 80-85db
and i'm not talking 85db on the cubase output
when u hear lower then this, u actually loosing frequencies, u just not hearing them !
so my opinion, since u've made the track so low, u didnt hear those freq's and now when u lift the vol higher, u get some masking or what ever that rubish your quality. |
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Suloo
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Posted : Aug 5, 2008 10:12
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well..my neighbour wants to fight with me if he has to listen to any kick/Bass or clap anymore.. he just told me this morning..haha
omg
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Boobytrip
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Posted : Aug 5, 2008 14:03
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Where do you turn up the volume ? If it's the master fader it could be due to clipping. It could also be that your amp/speakers compress at higher volume levels. Or you could be hearing an already bad mix louder |
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Saii
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Posted : Aug 5, 2008 16:20
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On 2008-08-05 09:35, Crying Orc Project wrote:
for basic knowlage.
the volume that musician need to work with in order to hear the they work in the best way that they can is 80-85db
and i'm not talking 85db on the cubase output
when u hear lower then this, u actually loosing frequencies, u just not hearing them !
so my opinion, since u've made the track so low, u didnt hear those freq's and now when u lift the vol higher, u get some masking or what ever that rubish your quality.
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thanks dude, how do i know that im listening to it on 85db if ableton live's master fader is at 0db and i cannot put it up anymore...and my external soundcard console only goes up to 0db as well everything else is (-ve)....
thanks
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Suloo
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Posted : Aug 5, 2008 20:05
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Hardware db metering with little mic inside..you can get some good and cheap ones from behringer..but believe me..83db is actualy quite loud for home usage.. 
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Tomos
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Posted : Aug 5, 2008 20:06
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how do i know that im listening to it on 85db
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The only way.. microphone and db meter!
Or years of practice holding a piece of paper up and feeling for the vibrations. |
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Suloo
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Posted : Aug 5, 2008 20:12
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but it`s true what crying orc said.. even to mix constant on that level for a specific time and making breaks is quite important to refresh your ears..
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psylevation
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Posted : Aug 5, 2008 20:39
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how do i know that im listening to it on 85db
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The only way.. microphone and db meter!
Or years of practice holding a piece of paper up and feeling for the vibrations.
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Or an SPL meter  (thats what I use)
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Tomos
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Posted : Aug 5, 2008 21:18
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Well... yeah |
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realtime
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Posted : Aug 6, 2008 00:39
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my neighbour told me, that he is musician himself and understands that i need to "practise" ...
but my beats bring him out of sync when he practise (120<->145) ... hehe
only told him: "if it's too fast, then you're too old ..."
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Saii
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Posted : Aug 6, 2008 02:19
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whats a good SPL or db meter for macs?
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vipal
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Posted : Aug 6, 2008 04:11
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go to radioshack like stores, its a plastic thing on batteries with a meter that measures the sound pressure level. its got nothing to do with your computer. you can measure how loud you girlfriend screams at you f.e. |
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