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how do i go about...record labels???
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Troll
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Posted : May 8, 2006 01:09
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On 2006-02-03 10:48, tsabeat wrote:
bad idea i think
from personal expirience with the net - it will never bring you to the place ya want.
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I don´t know. Almost all finnish artists including us have released loads for free on the web, and becouse of them we´ve all been travelling playing at parties all over the globe. Everyone have their own style to take care of things.
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www.manxrippers.com
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Posted : May 8, 2006 18:25
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You are all very welcome to send demos as per the address on my website. I mostly put out techno but am looking at psy and all kinds of trance possibly with a view to a techno remix on the flip if the song lends itself to the style.
Please only send finished masters not work in progress.
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Elad
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Posted : May 9, 2006 01:24
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On 2006-05-08 01:09, Troll wrote:
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On 2006-02-03 10:48, tsabeat wrote:
bad idea i think
from personal expirience with the net - it will never bring you to the place ya want.
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I don´t know. Almost all finnish artists including us have released loads for free on the web, and becouse of them we´ve all been travelling playing at parties all over the globe. Everyone have their own style to take care of things.
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last years on israel and in the upcoming season , apart from lemonm slide and salakavala all artist that was here and that i know planned for this summer from finland have realesed cd if not 2 or more.
anyways on soulseek dc++ and those p2p networks , they trade and spread realeses more then free mp3 from sites.
random search for texas faggott tracks or kiwa's will show u what helped them more , thixxndixx or exogenic/13 pro. www.sattelbattle.com
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Troll
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Posted : May 9, 2006 23:13
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Well yes, some them did release, but then again they were known before they released, much thank´s to antiscarp.tk, thixx´n´dixx, mikseri and such, which are their own promotion sites...
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cytopia
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Posted : May 11, 2006 10:29
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Also welcome to send us (Cytopia.org) some tunes. We release online as download and artists earn up to 60% of each sale. But many artists put up tracks for free as promotion....
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Elad
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Posted : May 11, 2006 11:56
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On 2006-05-09 23:13, Troll wrote:
Well yes, some them did release, but then again they were known before they released, much thank´s to antiscarp.tk, thixx´n´dixx, mikseri and such, which are their own promotion sites...
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again , random search on the net will show u which trax are more popular and got more to peaples attention
and anyhow i talk more from personal expirience , in the past i had more then album on the net , it was getting me 3-4 parties a year to dj , while after realese (so far only 3 trax! and alot coming soon) i get 2-3-4 bookings a month.
im not saying im not antiscarp freak (finnaly wav's and not mp3 so its also nice for paties since i dont play mp3) but i think it realy is helping alot to realese with actual label.
may be its due to the fact that anyone can put his sounds on sites but realese is up to someone else that whiling to pay for the music. not to mention realeses get real proffessional mastering , and its pleasure to listen to your track in better quality then u can get alone (its also about costs.. u can send it to pro master without realese , but did anyone of those trax on sites ever done that?)
so i think that free mp3 sites r good to get first attention , but then come the real world test (not evryone uses computer hey)
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Troll
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Posted : May 11, 2006 20:40
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On 2006-05-11 11:56, tsabeat wrote:
so i think that free mp3 sites r good to get first attention , but then come the real world test (not evryone uses computer hey)
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I agree. I sort of meant that, even if I didn´t say it explicitly. If you come out from nowhere it is (i think) quite hard to get the attention needed in wich case the net is really usefull. Everyone dreams of a record deal  But then again, so much music is being released at the moment that I personally think labels should be a bit more picky about what they are releasing so it really would be something extraordinary to release (i know, this is a bit btw) and the net releases would be more of a demo sort of thing, getting the fan-ground needed to sell.
...but yes, you were absolutly right.
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Troll
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Posted : May 14, 2006 23:32
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An other thing you always should keep in mind is that there are loads of rip-off labels out there, so be very careful. There should be some sort of an official "black list" so fewer people would even try to rip artists off. Same goes with the party-promoters...
Stupid and short-sighted, but all too common.
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Kitnam
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Posted : May 15, 2006 13:18
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about releasing it is important to have personal contact to the a&r or labelowner. (which is in psytrance to 99% the same person) in other cases maybe contacting an helpfull artist or a label-dj from your favourite label can help you for the start.
sending demo-cds "dry" this means, without any pre-contact to a label is in my experience (ok its a bit time ago with me) realy not that good. because, when they dont like your sound, sometimes you even doesnt get any answer. (in my experience 30-50% of non-liked cds)
and this leads into: you dont know what kind of production they dont like. you dont know if the even listend to your cd. you dont know whats going on anyway.
so for me: i will never send a demo even if jesus is the labelowner himself a cd "dry" to a label again, which i dont know with personal contacts. go and search for the nice people, msn and icq can be very helpfull! in some cases the small and fresh labels do much more for upcoming artists and care about new contacts and feedback compared to some big ones.
if later some bigger labels want your sound, there will be come a contact automaticly (from partys, asking, etc.)
and: the most important is the music offcourse. sometimes you need to send just one track, if the track is that realy that outstanding cool and its on the hand of the right person a few weeks later the whole creme de la creme on the globe knows you. this doesnt must happen even if your sound is amazingly killing. but be sure, it can. just to show how the power of quality can flood aways anything else which is important for sending a demo.
GOOD LUCK!
and another tip: there are many strangely people out there. if you have contact to people which are maybe big or not: not important. if they are not that nice to you as you wish for your future work: release them! and on the other side. many people talk many blablabla. what counts are the facts, not words - keep that also in mind. you know the speech: "take care." |
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cytopia
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Posted : May 15, 2006 14:07
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It definately does help to know people, but most important imo is still the quality of the music. A buddy of mine sent music to labels for years and got either no reply or at the most an email turning him down. This year his music really made a jump, it all came together, and he sent demos to more than 20 labels; this time many of them made him concrete offers, including the ones that never ever heard of him.
Speaking of rip off labels, one label in particualr made him a rediculous offer, 50% of sales revenue, and said they wanted him to make 3 albums. With some research we both heard stories of that label having ripped off other artists and it seems likely they never intended to pay. But the other offers seem genuine; so just ask around what others have heard about a label when in doubt.
And for those of you wanting to bring your music into the world, Cytopia.org is doing better by the day. Many artists are posting tracks on the site available as free downloads to promote themselves, and artists can loggin to the site and change the price of their tracks anytime, as well as being able to see sales data for their tracks and their account balance. We release non exclusively which means artists are free to release tracks anywhere else also.
Also we are doing an artist competition, it was announced in may edition of mushroom magazine. Details here http://www.cytopia.org/competition.php?MYSID=9c2aaede26c945569b38ea04a35ebec8
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jivamukti
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Posted : May 15, 2006 20:42
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On 2006-05-14 23:32, Troll wrote:
There should be some sort of an official "black list" so fewer people would even try to rip artists off. Same goes with the party-promoters...
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The problem with such a list is that it would be abused for badmouthing: rivalry, jealousy, plain meanspiritedness...
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Kitnam
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Posted : May 15, 2006 22:56
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@troll
i also planned to realise a blacklist-website. i cancelled because of 2 problems:
- 90% of all the labels would be a part of this list. because you allways find anyone who had a problem with anyone, as far as they tell. its not possible to check out if the given informations are trustfull or bashing. even it would be easy to bash based on personal differences between the people. and it just would spread out many negative vibrations for nothing.
- the owner of the website would have sooner or later getting legal problems. i know a forum-owner having much trouble with a lawer because someone posted just a joke about his client. so sooner or later you need to pay high costs (counter-lawer) and offcourse the stress itself.
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Troll
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Posted : May 16, 2006 13:47
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No, I know. I didn´t really mean that, it all too evil and private problems should be resolved without dragging in innocent people or peolpe who have nothing to do with it for that matter.
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NasCa
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Posted : Aug 15, 2006 00:56
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hi all!
i have one question. when you upload a 3mins preview from your new track to internet it's a problem to labels to release that track in the future or not?
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NasCa
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Posted : Aug 22, 2006 13:50
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somebody?
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