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How common is it for artists to use loops?
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faxinadu
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Posted : Sep 16, 2011 15:20
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On 2011-09-16 15:17, disco hooligans wrote:
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On 2011-09-16 15:04, faxinadu wrote:
i guess i got it all wrong.
i should stop bothering.
no one "cares" anyway as you say.
abelton8 and east-west packs here i come!
yuck 
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But if you care you should carry on making music the way you like it and not care whether anyone cares or not 
Peace out.
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yah you are right, apologies. i just thought the same.
i don't know why i care, it gets to me sometimes i guess
 
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Sep 16, 2011 17:48
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I think people lost the plot and forgot that this scene (coming from other branches of electronic music) was build upon loops and samples.
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faxinadu
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Posted : Sep 16, 2011 19:15
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On 2011-09-16 17:48, Beat Agency wrote:
I think people lost the plot and forgot that this scene (coming from other branches of electronic music) was build upon loops and samples.
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when was it ever built on melodic loops?
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diskonekt
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Posted : Sep 16, 2011 20:14
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On 2011-09-16 19:15, faxinadu wrote:
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On 2011-09-16 17:48, Beat Agency wrote:
I think people lost the plot and forgot that this scene (coming from other branches of electronic music) was build upon loops and samples.
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when was it ever built on melodic loops?
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Makes no difference to me. A loop is a loop whether it's melodic or not. It's someone elses premade creativity in a box and there's nothing wrong in using it as an element of your track. It's the composition that only counts imho.
As far as this conversation goes Beat Agency said it all earlier. We're basically talking about a branch of techno music here and techno stems from looping and sampling so ...
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faxinadu
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Posted : Sep 17, 2011 07:08
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there is a huge difference between sampling your dad's old vinyls, and everyone using the freakin same packs like today. if that isn't half assed i don't know what is.
why is the composition all that matters? don't you want to hear something where the artist was creative in all aspects?
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naretir
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Posted : Sep 17, 2011 12:18
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No suprice with Ace using premade stuff.. Not even his name is original..
But nice music anyways..
Ohh yeah. fiddle and boom. Ableton addict :)
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Sep 17, 2011 18:43
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The key is to use samples and loops in a clever way which is to manipulate, cut, twist, stretch the loops /samples to an extend they are no longer recognizable. I use loops such as percussion, drums, vocals etc. and dig into the details I like and cut them up and this way build up new original loops.
I really could not care less where the samples/loops comes from. That's not the issue. The issue is to be creative!
But of course everything else in my music is recorded and played by myself. I also program my own sounds and this is where I feel the real issue is found. Way too many artists use pre-made factory sounds and end up using sounds x 100 other artists also used.
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faxinadu
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Posted : Sep 17, 2011 18:56
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Sep 17, 2011 19:01
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Now I am not that much into Ace Ventura's music (Haven't listened to any of his music) to know if he use pre-made melody lines etc. But if he does his success just show that people really do not care one bit on the dance floor. And why should they? They are not into making music and know shite about sample CD's.
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PsyGalaXy
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Posted : Sep 17, 2011 19:22
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naretir
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Posted : Sep 17, 2011 19:38
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Beat Agency +1
guess not all are geeks like us.
And only a small % of ppl would recognize a sample in a tune..
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untilthereislight
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Posted : Sep 18, 2011 03:00
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On 2011-09-16 14:46, disco hooligans wrote:
Bare in mind that the common listener that goes to parties and has a great time, does not know (neither does s/he care) whether anyone made their tunes from samples, or if the artist made every single sound of the mix, from a modular synth with no memory.
We can sit and talk about it on here for ever, it still makes no difference to commercially succeful artists and the people that buy music.
Peace out.
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That is very correct. Ace rocks either ways for me.
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faxinadu
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Posted : Sep 18, 2011 03:57
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sidra
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Posted : Sep 18, 2011 04:48
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I have never used loops, not even drum loops. The main reason being that I want to learn as much as possible. It's everyones creative choice on whether or not they are going to use loops, and what they are going to do with them, and I am not bashing people who do. I just know that for my personal creativity, the more I practice, the easier it will be over time, and it will only help me be more creative in the way I want to be. If I was always using loops for certain things, I wouldn't grow creatively in that way as quickly. I would probably get more creative with using loops, which is cool too, and i am sure useful, but its not where I want to take myself right now. |
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Posted : Sep 18, 2011 12:15
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I always get sad when I hear a track that sounds extremely/obviously like a loop pack on my hard drive - like copying midi keys, atmospheric fx, and everything
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