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How come, all standard kick samples don't have enough bass?
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Djones
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Posted : Nov 15, 2007 19:43
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I've always wondered why it is that nearly every kick sample I have ever used lacks enormous bass?
I always need to layer some deeper/subbas over my regular kick to get at least the right amount of lowend in the kick.
Isn't that strange? |
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UnderTow
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Posted : Nov 15, 2007 20:37
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I never layer my kicks but I'll EQ them. Most of the EQ is usually _removing_ frequencies. Mainly the low-mids (120-400 Hz).
Maybe the problem is that your kicks have too much mid rather than too little low-end. 
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Glitch_CapeTown
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Posted : Nov 15, 2007 21:22
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Fragletrollet
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Posted : Nov 15, 2007 22:41
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Zoopy
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Posted : Nov 15, 2007 22:51
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Make your own kix! problem solved |
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Spindrift
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Posted : Nov 16, 2007 02:29
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On 2007-11-15 22:41, Fragletrollet wrote:
whats the difference between lowering the EQ but gaining the channel and the opposite? Thought the "only reduce" rule for EQ's only applied for low-end of hardware eq's cause of cheaper preamps than in the mixer? As long as your careful ofcourse.
But I might be wrong?
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On an hardware EQ boosting will involve an active circuit which means that the signal will be more coloured than if you achieve the same curve by removing frequencies instead.
I guess if you have a weak signal to start with and will need boost it with the preamp on the mixer anyway that point becomes moot unless you think the mixer is of better quality.
But I think the main reason is that boosting instead of cutting easily leads to less ideal results.
For example take a narrow boost and look what it does to the signal comparded to a narrow cut.
The boost will result in a much more narrow signal effectively thinning out the sound and make one dominant frequency.
With sounds that have a narrow response it becomes harder to make a full sounding mix.
It also means that the sound will sound less like the original source and probably have less controlled dynamics.
So with a digital EQ and if you are sure that you make a suitable curve you don't need to worry about boosting.
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psilonaut
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Posted : Nov 16, 2007 06:03
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Bazzism is cool being a vst but I like stomper much more for making kicks. |
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Trip-
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Posted : Nov 16, 2007 08:18
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On 2007-11-15 20:37, UnderTow wrote:
I never layer my kicks but I'll EQ them. Most of the EQ is usually _removing_ frequencies. Mainly the low-mids (120-400 Hz).
Maybe the problem is that your kicks have too much mid rather than too little low-end.
UnderTow
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Exactly what it might be.
Although I don't really remove low mids too much, to keep the raw meat together.
What about your listening conditions? It might that you don't hear enough bass at where you sit... just a suggestion.
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Fragletrollet
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Posted : Nov 16, 2007 11:33
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PoM
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Posted : Nov 16, 2007 16:27
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On 2007-11-15 22:41, Fragletrollet wrote:
whats the difference between lowering the EQ but gaining the channel and the opposite? Thought the "only reduce" rule for EQ's only applied for low-end of hardware eq's cause of cheaper preamps than in the mixer? As long as your careful ofcourse.
But I might be wrong?
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most of the time i start to eq ,i remove the freq i don t like ,that why at the end i dont need to boost or just a little,i think it give a better sound,and like undertow say when you don t have enought low usually it s cause you have to much high.
not sure if you were talking about that |
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