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How can you make these long kicks ?
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Conny
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Posted : Oct 11, 2005 18:07
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When i analyse my favorite songs i find out that the kicklength are much longer than my own kicks.I can´t even get near these long kicks no matter what i do, i´ve tried timestretching but it doesn´t help me.
Amy suggestions on how this long kicks can be made would be nice !
Maybe it´s possible to make them in soundforge with sines which you pitch but how do i make them sound more "acoustic" which you can do if you layer kicks ?
When i layer kicks i can shape the sound just the way i want but in the mix it sounds
silly and i think it´s because of the short kick length.
Please help me out !
Regards Conny
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e-motion
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Posted : Oct 11, 2005 18:23
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could be the compression... try using a hard limiter in the kick... if it still sounds silly? then yes you need a new kick 
if not compress it with a multiband compressor then limit it not-so-hard.
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Fugga
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Posted : Oct 11, 2005 19:54
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who's tracks are you talking about ??
i often get friends giving me kick samples that are long, but if i use them i always trim them first. |
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EYB
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Posted : Oct 11, 2005 20:11
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try a real recorded bassdrum sample and maybe layer a sine kick.
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sundrop
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Posted : Oct 11, 2005 21:58
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maybe you are talking about full-on basslines?
or do you mean the big long bass kick sound...
-you can make long kicks like this with soundforge, try the infected mushroom tutorial.
-you can also do this with using a large Release time on a synth.
-adding reverb and very short delay to a kick can achieve this effect too. |
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Morax
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Posted : Oct 12, 2005 04:13
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ucc
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Posted : Oct 12, 2005 04:25
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On 2005-10-12 04:13, Morax wrote:
the long kicks made with more wave cycles
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nice tip |
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Conny
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Posted : Oct 12, 2005 14:28
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Im thinking a bout a band called vive la fete
Sundrop i will try your tip wand see what happens.Well i have tried the infected mushrooms tutorial but if i make a long sine kickin soundforge and tried to layer it with a short acoustic drumsample wouldn´t it sound weird because they are not in the same length ?
I´ve tried the infected drumtutoriasl but i would like to layer these long sine kicks with other acoustic kicks but it´s difficult because these are much shorter than these sinekicks which you can make in soundforge.
Sorry my english is not the best but what do you mean with more wavecycles ?
Best regards Conny |
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shachar
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Posted : Oct 12, 2005 14:36
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why do you want long kick?
you mean that the punch of kick is longer?
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Conny
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Posted : Oct 18, 2005 09:53
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I want the whole kick to be longer.
Would be nice to know what you mean with "more wavecycles"
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Boobytrip
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Posted : Oct 18, 2005 10:14
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Awww... you can make those long kicks in soundforge like in the infected mushroom tutorial (r) by using a long sine-wave or in any decent subtractive synth by using a long midi-note. Sample them and throw them in your sampler and use a short decay on the sample: drawing long notes in your sequencer makes the low part of the kick rumble on, drawing short ones makes the the kick shorter.
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Conny
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Posted : Oct 21, 2005 13:42
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Wéll the infected tutorial i very handy.
But ups wouldn´t we all end with samesounding kicks if we only uses sines which we make kicks out of ?
Best regards Conny |
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NikC
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Posted : Oct 21, 2005 13:46
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On 2005-10-21 13:42, Conny wrote:
Wéll the infected tutorial i very handy.
But ups wouldn´t we all end with samesounding kicks if we only uses sines which we make kicks out of ?
Best regards Conny
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It's how you process the kick afterwards that makes it sound different...
www.myspace.com/beat_nik |
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