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How can I make a bbbb bassline ?

Osb
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Posted : Feb 3, 2013 08:49:53
Hello.. please don't send me to that mother of...

I'm trying to make a rolling bassline with a note in every space bbbb , but it does not not sound like I want it to sound.

At the moment I have been trying to do it with a hi pass filter where the kick is hitting, no sidechain.

Any tips will be much appreciated..

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lunarbeats
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Posted : Feb 3, 2013 11:37
use simple sawtooth as "high-bass" and sinus for low bass. add some eq (this would help: http://cdn.mos.musicradar.com/images/legacy/futuremusic/FM_clubmix_dsktp.jpg) send those two tracks to one bus and use side-chain compression.
for side chain use extra muted kick track wchitch only sends signal for compressor

cheers mate!
dj chichke
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Posted : Feb 3, 2013 12:11
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On 2013-02-03 08:49:53, Oski wrote:
Hello.. please don't send me to that mother of...

I'm trying to make a rolling bassline with a note in every space bbbb , but it does not not sound like I want it to sound.

At the moment I have been trying to do it with a hi pass filter where the kick is hitting, no sidechain.

Any tips will be much appreciated..






You saying it yourself. Use side chain only on the low frequencies. But i don't think your idea is good. it will be too much stressing bbbb           http://www.youtube.com/user/ChichkeMultiTech
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Alien Bug
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Posted : Feb 3, 2013 13:09
just look for right kick if you wanna have bbbb like in older tracks.

here is sample of my BBBB bassline without any sidechain:
https://soundcloud.com/alien-bug/alien-bug-superior-beings-demo
          http://www.beatport.com/release/cross-the-atoms/1042450
http://soundcloud.com/alien-bug
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Sunrise Travellers
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Posted : Feb 3, 2013 20:30
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On 2012-06-08 22:48, Sunrise Travellers wrote:
nice tip from atma here
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On 2006-04-05 01:04, The_Guardians_Of_Truth wrote:
I always use bass notes over the kick, and i take the "velocity" lower than the rest of the bass notes.

1) I always try to use the same bass note over the kicks.
Example: "if the track key is A minor, i will try to place the A note on every kick (A---A---A---A)
or the corepondent 5'th note: (A---E---A---E)
etc.. to create an equilibrium in the track, because the bassline and the drums are the main structure of a song. If those doesnt fit together, or sound good...nothing will!"

2) Why, i use the bass notes over kick ??? Well, because this will make the kick sound more integrated into the track, more warm. Without this, the kick will sound dry and out of the track, no metter how much compresion or eq you use.

3) about the velocity:
I set the general bass notes to 100%, but when the kick meets the bass i set the velocity to aprox. 20 %, Never more !!!
So a classical 4/4 velocity, bass measure will look like this:
(20% - 100% - 100% - 100%)

REMEMBER ! This is not a rule !!! It all depends of the kick u use, or the feeling you wanna give to the track !!! So, if you have a plastic, dry kick u can use this metode. If your kick is warm and full of all frequences, you can play it alone, without bass note over it.



also check here:
http://forum.isratrance.com/placing-bass-notes-over-the-kick-or-not/
http://forum.isratrance.com/mixing-bass-notes-that-fall-on-a-kick/

useful tips for sure...(i like to go back sometimes to old posts and read nice tips, always help me)

Cheers


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Wizack Twizack
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Posted : Feb 3, 2013 20:39
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On 2013-02-03 13:09, Alien Bug wrote:
just look for right kick if you wanna have bbbb like in older tracks.

here is sample of my BBBB bassline without any sidechain:
https://soundcloud.com/alien-bug/alien-bug-superior-beings-demo




I liked the going in ur track there. Sounded nice! Is it a finnished track or just that sample done yet?

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Alien Bug
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Posted : Feb 3, 2013 21:18
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On 2013-02-03 20:39, Wizack Twizack wrote:
Quote:

On 2013-02-03 13:09, Alien Bug wrote:
just look for right kick if you wanna have bbbb like in older tracks.

here is sample of my BBBB bassline without any sidechain:
https://soundcloud.com/alien-bug/alien-bug-superior-beings-demo




I liked the going in ur track there. Sounded nice! Is it a finnished track or just that sample done yet?

cheers!




This is a track that some time ago i started making but never finished it. Maybe you would like to finish it?           http://www.beatport.com/release/cross-the-atoms/1042450
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demoniac
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Posted : Feb 3, 2013 21:31
Tune your kick to the bassline so you don't need to do all that sidechaining           VA - Spiritual Science out now!
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Osb
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Posted : Feb 5, 2013 04:13
Alright.. So far I have been getting good results by trying it both ways, using compression and by finding a better kick and equing everything well.
I will keep on practicing until I find which one works better for me.
Thanks a lot helping ..
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Osb
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Posted : Feb 5, 2013 04:16
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On 2013-02-03 13:09, Alien Bug wrote:
just look for right kick if you wanna have bbbb like in older tracks.

here is sample of my BBBB bassline without any sidechain:
https://soundcloud.com/alien-bug/alien-bug-superior-beings-demo



I like how clean it sounds . thanks for posting this. : )

____________________________________

@ Surise Travellers

thanks for sharing those links. I think I saw one of those looong time but if I would have tried to find it now, I might never have. jejeje.. So I will read them now. thanks again!!
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Alien Bug
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Posted : Feb 5, 2013 12:19
Thanks. I was completely surprised that I was able to do it so well
I am trying before a lot of times with filter automations, sidechain etc and finally i do it in the easiest way           http://www.beatport.com/release/cross-the-atoms/1042450
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PoM
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Posted : Feb 5, 2013 13:43
if the bassline riff don t need a bass note under kick to me it s not really needed ,but if it can give intresting result like in Alien Bug example

you can also use a a other synth to mimic a sub osc, the sub will play bbb and the second synth play bbbb one octave higher with a different waveform (ever saw or ssquare depending what used for the sub) this can be good for goaish bassline . that way you can leave the sub mono wihtout any fx in case you want to use some
Alien Bug
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Posted : Feb 5, 2013 14:41
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you can also use a a other synth to mimic a sub osc, the sub will play bbb and the second synth play bbbb one octave higher with a different waveform (ever saw or ssquare depending what used for the sub) this can be good for goaish bassline . that way you can leave the sub mono wihtout any fx in case you want to use some



+1 nice tip
on Massive it's easy to make even 3 osc bassline (bypass the sub osc) still sounding fullonish if somebody want to do          http://www.beatport.com/release/cross-the-atoms/1042450
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Sunrise Travellers
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Posted : Feb 5, 2013 17:18
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On 2013-02-05 04:16, Oski wrote:
@ Surise Travellers

thanks for sharing those links. I think I saw one of those looong time but if I would have tried to find it now, I might never have. jejeje.. So I will read them now. thanks again!!



No problem mate! hope these threads will help you!
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Osb
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Posted : Feb 6, 2013 07:37
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On 2013-02-05 13:43, PoM wrote:
you can also use a a other synth to mimic a sub osc, the sub will play bbb and the second synth play bbbb one octave higher with a different waveform (ever saw or ssquare depending what used for the sub) this can be good for goaish bassline . that way you can leave the sub mono wihtout any fx in case you want to use some



Ooh maaan!! that's it , that's it..
This is the way I will do it. No need to look for anything else.
lunarbeats way to do it is good but this one I like better because I will not have to use sidechain compression. yeees..(Not a big fan of sidechains) jeje..

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