Equilizyme
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Posted : Nov 22, 2011 23:23
lol,
but seriously, TripAMillion:
for a lot of these things a good approach to take is to load whatever thing you are unsure what it does and apply it to some sound or synth and turn all the knobs, and listen to what happens. In the end, all that matters is what it sounds like.
TripAmillionTrip2seE
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Posted : Nov 22, 2011 23:44
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On 2011-11-22 22:34, sidra wrote:
Yeah, you definitely always have to stick to the Fibonacci sequence for snare builds, good one noticing that. Make sure your kicks are easily divisible by pi as well.
Could you Please elaborate
wouldn't that make not 4/4
would that be closer to 8/13 or is the phi
This is just a guess.
Could someone put together the simplest example of how someone would apply the concept of golden ratio using using the smallest number of beats? (either track or an explaination would great Thanx!)
Namaste <3
Now I'm starting to see swirlies!
ps. how do I contact a supermod to change my user name? I would like to change it to ChiMoHe if possible. Thank You.
I changed my soundcloud to ChiMoHe as well. It's to late to edit the previous posts
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vipal
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Posted : Nov 23, 2011 07:29
honest review .. completely honest
lot of bs in your writing, like its more about you being special then about the music on itself.
the last track you posted has nice evolving sounds, keep these tracks coming.
alajarvela
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Posted : Nov 23, 2011 08:55
I'm not sure if you're trolling or not so I'll give you an serious answer. The Workshop section is for displaying your music and getting opinions on it, the Production and Music Making section is for more specific questions about the making progress. For example, "here's my song, what do you like" would go in the Workshop and "I want to make a drone like this here, what to do" would go in this section.
There's a lot of less active users who still gets positive feedback on their music, it's not a matter of do the people know you before hand or not. There are some people you might see in several threads like Disco Hooligans, jekvan, Faxi Nadu etc etc. but me, I don't know or recognize most of the people here.
Last thing, when asking opinions, it'd be a lot easier if your music was the same genre as what this whole site is dedicated to, psy music. Your style is more like ambient, which is totally cool too but usually ambient is used for an intro in most psy genres. This is why your tracks didn't get that good constructive criticism which it might've deserved.
Please feel free to ask anything if I made myself unclear or worded something poorly.
L66
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Posted : Nov 23, 2011 10:04
You actually do give the impression that you are trolling... If you are indeed genuine then you are asking all the wrong questions and all in the wrong section, instead of trying to act witty why don't you read through the forums and links provided to you and then come back and ask a real question and you will expect to get real answers. if you need help you have to take some initiative,do not expect anyone to spoon feed you the answers. As alajarvela pointed out you are making music that has nothing to do with what this site is about...
TimeTraveller
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Posted : Nov 23, 2011 10:36
easy going , don't take all this too sirious lol. NOt that bad, needs serious dedication to it though. Surf the threads and start to produce. The ideas in your track is not bad at all , or the nice feel what you want to transform I'd say. Keep at it. And don't get worry about tis all here.Take it easy
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TripAmillionTrip2seE
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Posted : Nov 23, 2011 16:22
I have specific questions
I metioned I don't know the math because I WANT to know the Math.
Define Genre's in general
Genre's of Trance
what separates psytrance from trance from Goa from whatever other then geograpical location?
What bpms do you work with? 140? 120?
Was I right about a double kick ever 16 beats?
How many beats should the builds be?
If I should make
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On 2011-11-22 22:34, sidra wrote: Make sure your kicks are easily divisible by pi as well.
How?
And the Golden Ration Example ... I read the wiki but not sure how to apply it music
I don't see how these questions aren't real.
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alajarvela
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Posted : Nov 24, 2011 11:38
Always work on feeling, not rules. What sounds good, is good. Builds can be four beats, or two thousands there is no guide lines. I work usually around 120 to 170 bpm totally depending on what kind of sounds I'm trying to achieve. There doesn't have to be a double kick, sometimes there is and sometimes not.
Well, trance on this forum would be ok too cause it's one of the genres this forum evolves around.
TripAmillionTrip2seE
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Posted : Nov 24, 2011 18:38
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On 2011-11-22 22:34, sidra wrote: Make sure your kicks are easily divisible by pi as well.
I'm not sure this is possible using acid or reaper. I've tried afew different time signs ... Does any one know
x/y = pi
alajarvela - Thank You.
Is this song Trance? if so what type? If not does it fit a known genre?
TimeTraveller - ThankYou
Dedication indeed.
Everyone Else ... Sorry for my quick frustration ... I'll will make an effort to have direct questions and less "whiny" about my ignorances
PLUR
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TripAmillionTrip2seE
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Posted : Nov 24, 2011 18:58
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On 2011-11-23 08:55, alajarvela wrote:
Last thing, when asking opinions, it'd be a lot easier if your music was the same genre as what this whole site is dedicated to, psy music. Your style is more like ambient, which is totally cool too but usually ambient is used for an intro in most psy genres.
I haven't made beats in about 5 years. I just got a computer and installed my old hardrive.
There's a song from Sumblime that goes "We've got a brand new dance style we've got to over come." It's been going around in my head and I remembered someone had given my SpiritZone Complilation that included either included a song by KJ from eyephunk in CA, USA or he made the compilation for SpiritZone .. He's from Pakistan good DJ saw him spin afew of times. He told me it was psytrance. Lost the CD years ago but remeber I liked it so I choose psytrance has my new thing to learn.
So in discribing psytrance you said ambient as the intro then what? what I gather from listening:
you cresendo into a repeative beat layered with uhm soundscapes that kind of sway back and forth
but instead of droaning soundscapes you use clipping (is this the right word for putting in blank spots with no sound)
make a sort of cresendo that breaks into ambient for a chance to catch your breath and do it all over again
but in different ways to convaye mood and drive energy levels in diferent directions for a journy
whats funny is the tv is singing halleluya right now lol
I get it ... By trying to force a math pattern to fit a mold I was try to commeralize or McDoanaldise
I SEE NOW
I still want to see if I can achieve a real result with, what I know think was sarcasm, of fibonicci'ing the snare build and having the kich divisible by pi .... just to do it."The end IS the beginning as that PHAT lady sings" DreamStream By Timmy Dean Firman
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orgytime
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Posted : Nov 25, 2011 00:39
there is a second where is no mud @5:11 it was really
pleasing hear to something clear after all that stuff going on.
imo you should work this out lol
TripAmillionTrip2seE
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Posted : Nov 25, 2011 05:08
Ok so the blank spots are just as important as the sound
ie if no void = no psy (binaural in the brain) experience from the music
ie the void always sinergistic experience of mind and music"The end IS the beginning as that PHAT lady sings" DreamStream By Timmy Dean Firman
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orgytime
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Posted : Nov 25, 2011 11:37
its very basic EQ work. try to give each sound a place to gain clarity. in classical psy there is a kick and bass playing most of the time, that means you have to high pass all other instruments for example (start with 200-500hz and listen carefully). that way instruments wont mash. you can cut your HH´s even more, alot samples also have unwanted subs...
also to much different extreme reverbs playing at the same covers alot sounds. find your own ways to make things clear (sidechaining, EQ reverb, avoid unneeded freqs, etc)
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Posted : Nov 26, 2011 00:26
TripAmillionTrip2seE
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Posted : Nov 26, 2011 00:50
orgytime ... eq .. drop out un need freqs ... well if you've read my other post's I think you found that I've lost interest in "stealing" even though I paid Peace Love for the use ... I want to create my own soundz now ... The advice from this post and others is helping me put together what I want to become. I want to be a Tool I want to create Nu things to advance the science not just arrange what has come before
See ... psytrance is still evoking change in people as they learn
Chemistry ... Thank You ... I need that
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