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Homophobia in the Psy scene

uvego
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 00:33
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 00:35
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On 2005-11-15 00:33, uvego wrote:
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 00:38

I really shouldn't have read this topic some of the comments are disgusting. Homosexuality is natural, if it wasn't it wouldn't exist.          We are all visitors to this time, this place. We are just passing through. Our purpose here is to observe, to learn, to grow, to love... and then we return home.
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 00:43
Very true!

Lot of people don't get the point that everything existing is normal and nature in the end!

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ucc
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 00:44
generally a crappy gay talk goes like this
.hi i'm gay
.greateee, we can do a lot together because we hate hetros, we know they are all gay but they don't admit it and they pretend they like those ugly bitches like angelina jolie... btw, i loveeeeeee madonna


a gay to an hetro
.hi i'm gay
.huh?<thinking, did someone asked something this freakin bitch!?>


i had issues with gays, and i know cool ones, (i don't know lesbians i guess they hate me), and one thing i know for sure, they are a different specie.
uvego
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 00:44
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On 2005-11-15 00:38, Liquid-Vision wrote:
Homosexuality is natural, if it wasn't it wouldn't exist.



greenpeace, pls save the nature
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traveller
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 00:51
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On 2005-11-15 00:33, uvego wrote:
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traveller
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 00:53
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On 2005-11-15 00:44, ucc wrote:
and one thing i know for sure, they are a different specie.



Well I can tell you that they are not. You lack in education

Actually quite a few people here seem to lack in their education. I find that pretty sad..          "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
- Larry Niven
zafer
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 00:56
i guess we are now in a strange phase were hsxuality is becoming more socially accepted and for the first time since centuries gays feel they can out they feelings.

similarly to femminism that erupted violently after years of socially accepted female submission. but it's violent eruption luckily now calmed down and reached a constructive balance.

in an unfriendly/enemy social environment the initial violent force was necessary for the birth of the movement, tha take of consciousness and afirmation of the deserved self/social-esteem of it's members, but unluckily it was like a mirror effect of tha opposite wrong way of thinking: so appeared macho girls, womens saying that males are inferior, etc...

similarly, my dear faggoz, i think now you are in the same social phase: it's now up to you to show you understand how does it feel to be treated without a little bit of delicacy, and avoid doing it!!!!

don't misunderstand me, for me anyone is free to fuck&suck the way they prefer (i'm also ready to offer free support to any lesbian!!!!!!!), but you have to respect the fears (and call it also prjudice) of so called normal fuckers: i can understand parents beeing deeply disturbed from public homo kissing.

arrogance is never happily received: ass hole he who calls faggots hommos, and asshole the homo who doesn't respect other peoples mental limitations and fears, don't act like early femminnists, cancel your fears, try find the balance bringing constructive confrontation.

it seems to me that all the pride parades are a way for gays to scream and affirm their tastes to themselves more than to society, like trying to convince themselves that tey are not scared of outing themselves, like a force opposite to the one society applied on them telling homo is bad, but you're just provoking uselessly, the action-reaction mechanism is not freedom, freedom is doing wathever you want, not doing the opposite of what you don't like.

in brief: RESPECT, don't spread what you didn't like, and don't think you're something special or particular: Socrate did it 2000 years ago already

if some narrow minded idiot is damn disturbed from it, just move. recreative and correct use of lsd is good in my opinion, anyway i would take care not doing it in front of childrens, do you understand what i mean???

and often seems to me that all this gays and lesbians whining for tolerance are the less tolerants: i never seen a party were gays were not admitted, meanwhile lots of gay parties are only for gay people: woz the deal, are you superioir????

yes, i would like now some gay to explain why am i not good enough for their partys...!!!!!!

in my opinion both fuckers have lot to learn from each other, we just have to put apart fear and arrogance, after all it's just a fucking matter.....

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The Green Channel
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 01:12
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On 2005-11-15 00:05, svejk wrote:
To Ron Lyner, well you ended up yer last post with a 'dont be mad.. read carefuly and try to understand what im saying', so yeah .. I read it carefully, I tried to understand but I still think that I need to clarify and point out few things.

So, lets start from the beggining, you said that 'this is not natural'. Homosexuality is as natural as heterosexuality, deal with it. Nothing wrong seeing a guy kiss a girl on the street and I think that same goes for gays. If you dont like it, you can always turn your head and not look. The fact that they are not like you does not make them freaks of nature, it only makes them 'not like you'.
As for the 'Im gay and Im proud' tshirts and the pride parades - the reason for this is the existance of people like YOU Ron. I bet that if our society wasnt such narrow-minded and xenophobic, you would see much less of those things happen.
As for someone saying on the TV that having sex with men is better than having sex with woman .. Thats called 'Freedom of Speech', nothing wrong about it as well. Now, for the ( as Ron calls them ) 'The real gay people who are ashamed of the fact that they are gay' .. Lemmie ask you a question, are you ashamed of being an heterosexual? no? Then why the F should they be.
And as for (those that Ron defined as 'Fake gays') how they dress/walk/talk or whatever. Everyone has the right to dress or act however he wants, if you dont like it you have the option not to do it by yourself. Otherwise, as someone already mentioned in this thread, Live and let live... simple as that.
Oh, and in just case you were wondering
No, Im not gay.



I second every word .           "Love is a way of life"

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The Green Channel
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 01:23
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On 2005-11-15 00:53, traveller wrote:

Well I can tell you that they are not. You lack in education

Actually quite a few people here seem to lack in their education. I find that pretty sad..


T, I agree with you , however, please stop sounding like a school teacher.

One can encounter people who are a lot smarter then you and I, who might agree with Ron!
If you wan't to convince people, "go after the ball and not the man", personal attacks are meaningless.


          "Love is a way of life"

(Gaia, Love, Nature, Shamanism (.2A.y.0a.hu.1a.sc.2a.), Terence McKenna)
ucc
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 01:31
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On 2005-11-15 00:53, traveller wrote:
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On 2005-11-15 00:44, ucc wrote:
and one thing i know for sure, they are a different specie.



Well I can tell you that they are not. You lack in education

Actually quite a few people here seem to lack in their education. I find that pretty sad..



sorry traveller, for any that may hurt you

but are you an homosexual afraid to assume it, that you are indeed different?

beeing what i am, whatever it is if it really matters, i am different and proud and not affraid to talk, i have lost fights because i can easily loose my temper, but i am different as you are and the poor freak fags.

who are you to tell me i lack of education?
i may even lack, but you're noone to tell it
traveller
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 01:42
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On 2005-11-15 01:31, ucc wrote:

sorry traveller, for any that may hurt you

but are you an homosexual afraid to assume it, that you are indeed different?

beeing what i am, whatever it is if it really matters, i am different and proud and not affraid to talk, i have lost fights because i can easily loose my temper, but i am different as you are and the poor freak fags.

who are you to tell me i lack of education?
i may even lack, but you're noone to tell it




Well no I'm not gay. Some days I wish I was. Women can be so fooking bitches sometimes (of course not our lovely forum babes.. )

When you post misinformation in the forum it's well within my right to correct you. Perhaps you should re-read some of those biology books. Especially on what is the definition of a specie..
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Troll@CrackWhoreModels
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 01:46
Dear Ron and other small minds

Well the reason people have those t-shirts is because of people like you..
And I think you have totally misunderstood the reason of prides... Pride is not trying to tell that its better to be gay...the reason for pride is to create ”awareness ”

A pride is a demonstration for better rights for gay people in the world and we dont demand crazy things, just the same rights as every other person

Here in denmark we are currently fighting with the goverment so we are able to adopt,get married and give blood (and yes homesexuals are not allowed to donated blood if in its in lifethreathing situantions. And yes, we are privilleged here in denmark cause in some countries have made it far, there is still countries where being gay = death , and where people have to move from their country as refuged because of their sexuality so do you really think that people choose to be gay?

Pride is to tell people that its ok to be gay and it shows that gay people are all sorts of people, not only the sterothypic gay which you describe and see on tv.

The reason why so many gays are ashamed is not because of other gays , its because of people like you that make them feel that way.. Which is the reason why many people live whole lifes without ever being open to share the up and downs with their friends and often leads to psychial problems and in some cashes suicide..

I would feel pretty sad if I had denied my bestfriend/brother/sister/whatever to live the life which he/she wanted to live which is actually what you do when you believe in things like that..

And btw;

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ucc
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 01:52
cool traveller, ofcourse you have the right to do whatever, as far as i'm concerned, we should be free to fight to death, or even for just a few hits just to lively up the discussion, or just for the fun of it!
you do whatever, but keep in mind that to correct me you should present the facts that say so.
you just said you lack
were you really to correct me or just piss on me a little bit more?
you got me with the specie
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