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Homophobia in the Psy scene
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EYB
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 18:13
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On 2005-11-17 18:07, Farmer Jacob wrote:
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On 2005-11-17 18:03, Acidhive wrote:
Funny that you seem to respect OTT, and not me. Once more your eloquence does not ring true. And when I said that artists should not worry themselves with who listens to the music I didn't mean that commercially. Do you think someone like Simon Posford care when somewhere in the world there is some person slaughtering people with 'Twisted' on his headphones? Nope. He couldn't care, and why not? He doesn't think about that. And why doesn't he think about that? Because he'd worry himself to death. How can a musician be sure there's not someone with bad intentions listening to his music??
But apparently you hadn't figured this out yet. I had to spell it out for you once again. Anyway, get my point now? Then stop attacking me for things I didn't say ok?
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Ummmm... Ott and Simon Posford are close friends... Ummmm...
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And?
Acidhive is right here. Some people just want to croach up into ott's ass, no matter what he is saying.
Anyway ott got his point and acidhive got his point. Sure ott can't regulate who listens his music as long he release it in publicity, but surely he can say that he doesn't like that gay-haters listen it.
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EYB
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 18:14
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On 2005-11-17 18:11, Beartrap Machine wrote:
Acidhive you are spamming up the whole thread with your useless and utterly childish comments.
People trying to read this thread entitled "Homophobia in the Psy scene" will have to sift through your crap that has nothing to do with the topic.
Are you 12?
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What r u doing here? Is this related to the topic?
No it is not.
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Ron Lyner
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 18:18
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On 2005-11-17 15:13, suomi guy wrote:
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On 2005-11-17 13:07, Ron Lyner wrote:
for all of you who thinks im a nazi:
i want quotes that shows that im a nazi
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You asked for it, you got it.
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i hate most of them
i hate that they show it in the public
i hate to see that they are homos only because they want attention from other people
So maybe you hate them cause they get attention and the only way you get one is when you start nazi words? and that they can show they are homos in pablic but you can't show you are nazi in public.
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did you read the post i wrote after that one ?
well yeah im sorry for this post, not realy how i am,i dont hate them
actualy i met some that are ok, thats why i said most and not all of them
but i dont hate them
http://www.o-zen.com/art/ranal
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Ron Lyner
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 18:27
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On 2005-11-17 15:16, suomi guy wrote:
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On 2005-11-17 13:07, Ron Lyner wrote:
i didnt ever tell anything insulting to any specific gay person and not in the real life too..
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Oh how could we forget? a nazi is a person that hate a specific other person and not in generally. Just like Hitler hated specific 6 milion jews right?
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1. already said after that, that i dont realy hate them (when you hate someone you sometime wish he was dead, i dont want them to die)
2. there is a big different between MOST and ALL
about hitler: i dont remember that hitler said that that most of jews must die i think he said all of them must die.
3. i didnt try to insult any of them, i see i did but it wasn't my purpose.
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EYB
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 18:27
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About shit talking people bashing gays and being absolutly intolerant just read some topics at the http://www.psynews.org/ forum.
There is so much shit it is unbelievable. e.g. the Yahel cover thread -> a forum with at least 50% intolerant, narrow minded psytrancers.
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 18:32
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On 2005-11-17 18:27, EYB wrote:
About shit talking people bashing gays and being absolutly intolerant just read some topics at the http://www.psynews.org/ forum.
There is so much shit it is unbelievable. e.g. the Yahel cover thread -> a forum with at least 50% intolerant, narrow minded psytrancers.
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pffffhhhh.. Go get your head checked.
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EYB
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 18:33
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On 2005-11-17 18:32, Kire-naj wrote:
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On 2005-11-17 18:27, EYB wrote:
About shit talking people bashing gays and being absolutly intolerant just read some topics at the http://www.psynews.org/ forum.
There is so much shit it is unbelievable. e.g. the Yahel cover thread -> a forum with at least 50% intolerant, narrow minded psytrancers.
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pffffhhhh.. Go get your head checked.
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It is as it is. You can't say this people are tolerant in any way.
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 18:37
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On 2005-11-17 18:33, EYB wrote:
It is as it is. You can't say this people are tolerant in any way.
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Yes I can, because I know most of them "personaly". I've been a active member there a long time. But I cant access the page anymore. Dell, where I work has blocked it. 
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TRapp
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 18:38
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wow.....
this is so interesting and fascinating....
wee wow wow wee
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Beartrap Machine
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 18:43
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There is a big difference between bashing an album cover and bashing homosexuals dude...
And yes, even with the most open mind in the world that Yahel cover still sucks.
And Ron Lyner:
Saying you hate most but not all is hardly making anything better...
Hopefully you have your English mixed up or something.
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Ov3rdos3
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 18:43
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26 pages of this. unbeleivable.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. bitching about other peoples opinions is immature and egocentrical. why does it matter if some people are homophobic? I simply dont associate with them. I regard them as bad as racists, as its pretty much the same idea.
But that aside, I just think it is so sad, that people cannot even make a joke about it, in fear of offending someone. This forum is so "P.C" ("Politically Correct" for our foreign friends), it deviates from the actual spirit of the psychdelic scene.
I posted a joke picture, relating to a psychedelic album cover and it was deleted for containing "abusive or degrading" text.
This is untrue, unless you are an absolutely humourless cyborg. And if that is the case......what the hell are you doing moderating a psychdelic trance site?
I await your opinion with bated breath.
Peace.
OD
edit: As for psynews.org being immature....bwaaahahahahhaaa!!! we spend half the day laughing at your brilliant use of the "Engrish" language.
"Killaarg bassline babba!. Monster uber dancefloor destoryers. Nuclear suicide maaan....Skaziiiii...I love you!! boom shiva!!! ho hoho!"
yeah.... we may be narrow minded. but at least we can put thought into words.
peace.
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Willy Wonka
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 18:49
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suomi guy, Hitler's idea was to be the lord of this whole word, jews were just a uniting point since many europeans were hating jews for different reasons and still BTW.
What Ron said is pretty clear, he can't accept homosexuals, it is his own right to say that! Homosexuality isn't normal from his personal view and you must to accept it if you ask him to accept your views about homosexuality.
Please all of you read what Cyberpunk said, it is most on topic and objective point of view!
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who took a young man up to her room
where there argued all night as to who had the right
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EYB
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 18:49
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@overdose
Maybe u think it is funny but not all people have the same taste and don't understand same things as joke.
I don't think this cover is that bad (compared to the YSE ones), but ur joke based on calling yahel gay. And it was meant in a negative way.
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Nathan
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 18:52
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On 2005-11-17 01:04, Ott^ wrote:
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On 2005-11-16 22:56, Nathan wrote:
To ott: have u red what Surrender posted about Ron?
Well now I have the same problem with one of my favorite artists – you!
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Because I dislike queer bashers?
If you think you can justify the idea that anyone on this Earth is somehow "unnatural" [and so, by definition, "inferior"] then I want you to know that I regard you as somebody to be spurned and avoided.
If you have a problem with me because I despise bigotry and ignorance then do me a favour and stop listening to my music.
It is specifically NOT made for people like you.
If you want to mail me any copies of my records you might have bought I'd be happy to refund what you paid for them.
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I do not know how you got the impression that I think that gay are inferior. Iam sure that there are a lot of gay ppl that are more talented than me in some things. I am not superior from any of them.
U made from me a gay Nazi. U do not have respect for ppl and that is your problem. If it makes u fell bad that I enjoy your music, don't wary. there is no red lamp in your room that turns on whenever I put your cd in the sound system. I hope that some day you will wake up and learn how to respect opposite opinion. you act like a kid who doesn't know that in every story there are more than 1 side. I just think that gay ppl have something wrong inside. I do not hate them in any way. I know nice gay ppl ,and i never said to any of them nothing bad. I respect every one for who he is. Even if I think that hi is un natural.
You hate me? Chill out listen to shulman and relax.
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Ov3rdos3
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 18:54
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@EYB
fact: it is funny. and YOU didnt think so. The cover is aweful and narcistic in the most exteme way. It was absolutely begging to ripped to shreds. And since you clearly have no understanding of dry humour, let me explain it to you.
If i point something out as "being gay" its the same as saying "its blue" or "its funny".
2 men kissing, is gay. regardless of what you say. and thats what makes it funny. It is neutral and true in every way.
And you dont get that 
next thing you'll be delete threads with the word "red" in it. because you may offend some indians. 
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