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Homophobia in the Psy scene
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KakoOlalaJwal
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 11:35
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People, and especially you AcidHive.. (edit : you also Willy Wonka) 
Thank you for having carefully read my previous post... For your information there is now again 4 offtopics stamps in the whole thread, which means another one and it will be again automaticaly locked..
If it's what you really want to then feel free to write whatever bullshit, you will be seen as the last poster of the thread and "responsible" of its locking..
So the people who were feeling concerned in any way in the thread will have the possibility to thank you via PMs..
Hope it's clear enough now..
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Willy Wonka
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 11:40
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My post dealing with OTT's words, re-read it same with Acidhive post. This is on topic whether you want it to be or not.
"there once was a lesbian from Cancun
who took a young man up to her room
where there argued all night as to who had the right
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Acidhive
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 11:42
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Then let them go ahead and thank me. I don't care. PM's can be ignored and deleted. Just like you threaten to close this thread up now. Have you even read my last posting? I'd be agreeing with me if I was a moderator.
And why should they harass me? I don't have anything against gay people, as I said before. I'm just saying this thread is going nowhere. And it is.
"Subconscious unravels at the point of death, and all time it has known erupts into a moment. As death extinguishes us, so we become it."
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Ott^
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 11:45
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On 2005-11-17 11:21, Acidhive wrote:
people (like OTT) are taking this up way too seriously.
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Is it possible to take hatred and bigotry "too seriously"?
I don't think so.
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| @OTT: have you ever considered there maybe 1000's of gay bashers enjoying your music? |
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Many of them subscribed to Isratrance, evidently.
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| After all, music is made for everyone. |
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Oh really? Thanks for letting me know.
I make music ostensibly for me, and then for anyone not choked with hatred and prejudice.
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| And let me tell you something else OTT. If you're one of those musicians that has a certain audience in mind while making the music instead of just making it and hoping anyone can enjoy it, you deserve my immediate disrespect. |
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I'm sure I'll manage to sleep at night.
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| Musicians are also people, I know that, but as a musician you shouldn't concern yourself with who listens your music. I mean, the more people listen your music the better right? |
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If the only thing that concerns you is sales, yes.
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I do.
I don't do what I do as a way of entertaining bigots and racists and haters. I do what I do as a direct reaction against the kind of ignorance and bullshit espoused by the haters, and the people like you who apologise for them.
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| Who cares if someone is gay? I can live with that easily, as long as they don't force it upon me. |
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I knew you'd reveal yourself eventually. Be honest - you're gripped by a fear that all gay men are secretly plotting to molest you or your children, aren't you...
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PsySlim
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 11:50
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guys i have been reading this thread since it started i have seen alot of different views by people regarding homosexuality.... most of the opinions of people due to which arguements have been occuring are covered in this article...
Facts About Homosexuality: -
Given below is a simplified, rearranged and abridged version of the information available on the web site of The American Psychological Association (APA) regarding Homosexuality
http://o3.indiatimes.com/same_sex_marriages/archive/2005/06/14/136228.aspx
i hope it helps to clear some confusion in opinions abt homosexuality for every one here
Its all about the vibe.... |
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aje
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 11:59
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I didnt read any of this , but its real easy:
Everybody should be allowed to stick his weener wherever he pleases, as long as the recepticle doesnt mind being penetrated by a weener. I dont care if you wanna stick your weener in a car exhaust, a sheep, a vagina or a mans ass, its all the same to me!!
Check out my album: http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music/gay-satanic-hippie-tiefenrausch |
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KakoOlalaJwal
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 12:00
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What Ott wrote was in itself offtopic too, Willy and Acidhive..
I am amazed how much some users here simply cannot do what they've been asked.. i quote here my last post, ok ?
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On 2005-11-17 01:22, KakoOlalaJwal wrote:
The existence of both threads, this one, and the one started later after the automatic lock of the first (because of offtopic that we had to delete in order to be able to unlock the thread) was useful in our opinion. So we finally decided, after having wondered about it, to merge them together because they obviously helped to realise that there is a problem in our scene. Yes, being homophobic is for us Isratrance team a worrying problem. And if we cannot influence what is going on in the psyscene we do want to do our possible here on this forum to avoid such inacceptable behavior. The Psychedelic Trance is a music that in essence goes to fish around various influences, geographical, temporal, and cultural so we simply cannot understand how come some lovers of this music be bashing this minority, or any other.
So, we decided to let this thread scattering in directions that some of you have noticed not being related to Psychedelic Trance at all. Some parts of the discussion have been interesting not to say useful, some less, like in every discussion, and we're happy with it. But, from now, after more than 20 pages "wide open" we would like the continuation of the thread to be directly related to the scene, please.
If we keep this offttopic, it will damage our integrity to challenge any other completely offtopic subject in the future, but again we thought it was important enough to let this one go.
Thank you for your understanding.
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I think it's not so complicated to understand, is it ?
So why do some of you have to :
1- Go on spreading his own infuse science
2- Argue with personal issues that don't concern you (Ott and Nathan)
I have now spent more than one hour with this thread this morning (here in France), which means that I lost this hour in my work time ok, which means that I'll have to spend one more hour working in the end of the day or loose money, ok ? So I'm asking you one more and last time.. Please stick to the problem of homophobia IN the psyscene..
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Ron Lyner
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 12:12
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you people only knows how to curse people who doesnt think like you do
give me some more curses people..
am i the nazi here?? did i want to kill someone ?? did i put someone in the ghetto ??
did i put a sign on gays that say they are gays (they did it for themselves) ?
or its you that wants to kill me ???
i only said what i think
so kill all the people who dont like what gays do..
than we'll have a better community right ??
maybe you'r ashamed that you dancing beside people like me that dont like how gays acting in public
but im ashamed that you people have so much hate that wants to kill me and only knows how to curse other people
i didnt curse anyone here but i got cursed so much by you
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Willy Wonka
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 12:21
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k Koko, i shut up.
Anyway, Psyslim nice reading, not as objective as it could be but some things i haven't knew.
"there once was a lesbian from Cancun
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Ron Lyner
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 12:53
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ok willy wonka sorry.. i thought you were talking to me...
mods: why dont you ban me if im a nazi ?
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Willy Wonka
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 12:59
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You not nazi, i was called nazi here too for agreing particaly with Social Darwinizm, so it's not a words are like bird here fly and never come back.
You just said your opinion not in right place and time.
"there once was a lesbian from Cancun
who took a young man up to her room
where there argued all night as to who had the right
to do what, how much and to whom" |
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Ron Lyner
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 13:07
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willy
yeah you are probably right i might have said my opinion not in the right place and time..
for all of you who thinks im a nazi:
i want quotes that shows that im a nazi
i didnt ever tell anything insulting to any specific gay person and not in the real life too..
and surrender: you dont have to listen to my music if you dont want to.
im not making music about gay or straight people
and im not thinking about gays in my day life
i only say what i think when someone talks about it
its not that im going on the streets and starting cursing gays or starting fights with them
and i wont insult any of them that starts to talk with me, if he's ok than its ok..
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floatyhippyflower
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 13:16
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On 2005-11-17 11:45, Ott^ wrote:
Is it possible to take hatred and bigotry "too seriously"?
I don't think so.
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Indeed.
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Ron Lyner
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 13:19
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i hate only one person and he's not gay
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floatyhippyflower
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 13:23
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On 2005-11-17 13:19, Ron Lyner wrote:
i hate only one person and he's not gay
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Congratulations!! 
Sorry.
As you were people. |
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