Homophobia in the Psy scene

On 2005-11-16 22:56, Nathan wrote:
What I was trying to say in the other tread: homosexuality is not natural. That's all. I do not afraid of them. I do not mind how thy act. Just see it as un natural

Kakoo wrote:
in the History there was a period where it was "natural" to have some slaves at home !!!

On 2005-11-16 23:19, clown wrote:
..its not because hitler was german that we should ban all german artists....

On 2005-11-16 23:37, Nathan wrote:
you can see it in a very early behavior.

On 2005-11-16 23:29, DiMiTry wrote:
One thing I do know for certain - a psytrance artist has to be open-minded in order to make music that I consider truly great. Prejudices limit your thinking, your imagination, and your understanding of life, the universe and umm.. everything. And if you're limited in that way, the music you create will be limited as well - definitely not something I want to waste time on.

-2 cents

On 2005-11-16 23:45, KakoOlalaJwal wrote:

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On 2005-11-16 23:37, Nathan wrote: you can see it in a very early behavior.

There you are wrong Nathan, and its not about opinion but scientific researches, every little boy has a little call-it "gay" period, appearing when he gains consciousness of his own body..

On 2005-11-16 23:52, Mahamudra wrote:
i know some people who think that beeing black isnt "normal" or "natural" thanks god they dont run this world ANYMORE :|

by the way for the dude/ people who said that you dont want to see them gays beeing gayish in public...
you talk like those characters in those fictional movies about "nazis" who hate "jews" "blacks" and anybody that isnt one of them.... i guess that was only in the movie. pfffffff

On 2005-11-16 23:56, Nathan wrote:

the most natural thing 4 one who born in Africa is to be black
Cause of the whether condition

On 2005-11-16 23:52, Nathan wrote:

I have seen school kids acting very feminine and hanging only with girls, cause they relate to them, feel more comfortable like they are from the same gander.

On 2005-11-16 23:47, Willy Wonka wrote:

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On 2005-11-16 23:29, DiMiTry wrote: One thing I do know for certain - a psytrance artist has to be open-minded in order to make music that I consider truly great. Prejudices limit your thinking, your imagination, and your understanding of life, the universe and umm.. everything. And if you're limited in that way, the music you create will be limited as well - definitely not something I want to waste time on. -2 cents

I disagree with it,

First of all artists are different kind of people and open mindness isn't talent of music production and have nothing to do with it. Some musician may bash homosexuals, politicians or house wifes to make him/her feel bigger than actually he/she is and it can give muse boost dor short period of time since real musicians are depressive kind of ppl and any change in their moral state can give a birth to new creation.

Second of all, within psytrance there are different kind of ppl, open minded, closed minded and each person and case is individual, like Bamboo Forest vs Tiesto thread where you clearly call album is cheesy shite, where is your open mindness then? So all of it relative to it's case.


Nathan,
i think you should make a research before you claim to know something. there is no proof how ppl become or discover they are gays. Genes, parents, wrong education, mental illness and so on.... This can accur at any step of your life, so advice beware of words coming out your mouth because someday you can discover something "new" about yourself and it will be harder for you to face it as person who hated homosexuality for long time.

This have nothing to do with stupid phrase like calling someone gay because he is wearing something that may look not malish in your personal view, or listen to music that you think gays may like or something happy. Whatever! The deal was not about you and gays, the deal was about ppl glue names tothings that have nothing to do with himosexuality but your cynic talks sounds like homosexuality is the worst thing in the world so you use this therm to describe something bad in your eyes.

and last, you know i've born in europe being a jew, in one of most antisemitic countries with dumb farm ppl living in most of areas except few big towns and you know what some of them used to say " You are a jew but a nice guy "!
This is first sign of antisemitism or hate, creating of groups and using general name for group as something negative as you clearly do.

On 2005-11-16 23:58, KakoOlalaJwal wrote:

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On 2005-11-16 23:52, Nathan wrote: I have seen school kids acting very feminine and hanging only with girls, cause they relate to them, feel more comfortable like they are from the same gander.

And what do you suggest ?? Park them in special classrooms ? eradicate ??

Bad joke, sorry.. but still.. when I read your lines here I say to myself that these boys may have been educated in a way that is out of the old fashioned "machist" Judeo-Christian standart, which is a good thing, and not that they will all probably be "gays" after or while their adolescence..

On 2005-11-16 23:47, Willy Wonka wrote:

First of all artists are different kind of people and open mindness isn't talent of music production and have nothing to do with it. Some musician may bash homosexuals, politicians or house wifes to make him/her feel bigger than actually he/she is and it can give muse boost dor short period of time since real musicians are depressive kind of ppl and any change in their moral state can give a birth to new creation.

like Bamboo Forest vs Tiesto thread where you clearly call album is cheesy shite, where is your open mindness then? So all of it relative to it's case.