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Homophobia in the Psy scene
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zicom
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Posted : Nov 16, 2005 03:20
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Gay's supporter i didnt say that he was gay
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Willy Wonka
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Posted : Nov 16, 2005 03:26
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I'm not! Supporter is someone that for Homosexuals while i'm not pro or against, I just think it is low and unethical to speak on forum in way they did.
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who took a young man up to her room
where there argued all night as to who had the right
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zicom
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Posted : Nov 16, 2005 03:43
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who care it provided great entertainment
for me it was more like should i support the pro gays to piss off homophobs or should i support homophobs to piss off pro gay.
i just like to read angry replies in a forum
they add flava and spice...otherwise everything is PLUR and KILLA
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chong
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Posted : Nov 16, 2005 03:58
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i came a bit late but wanted to add something...
homosexuality may be an uncounscious process to refrain human being from over-reproduction
i do find that very very natural and with time, they may be the key in the problem of over-population in the world...
the planet is totally full , 1/3 of the world is living in a huge trash , there is less and less biological ressources, and the population is still increasing with time ...think about that
i won't add anything already said about all these morons that cannot respect one group of person because of their peaceful and different way of life ,except that it's call fascism...
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DiMiTry
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Posted : Nov 16, 2005 04:01
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On 2005-11-16 03:20, zicom wrote:
Gay's supporter i didnt say that he was gay
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gay's supporter??
open-minded person is more like it.
fckng hicks.
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zicom
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Posted : Nov 16, 2005 04:11
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whats so open minded about supporting gays???
someone who supports gays is a gay's supporter
now u guys object even to that...i bet ur from the US looking for all that POLITICALLY CORRECT jargon
it would piss off a lot of people if i said u fucking faggot but calling someone a fucking hick (hicks are people too u know) doesnt seem to bother anyone---what a bunch of hypocrates--and wannabes---oooh look i am so open minded and COOL i support gays--woo wooo
talking about respect and telling someone to suck ur dick--directing that to someone with an opposing view that of urs is not considered disrespect but insulting a gay is ?
17 pages and still no solution only whinning oooh look that person is anti gay---he must be bad look that one is pro gay---he must be good and have expanded consiousness---more like an expanded ANUS! |
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DiMiTry
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Posted : Nov 16, 2005 04:18
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back in 1938 you would've called him a "jew supporter."
it has nothing to do with where you live - has everything to do with how ignorant you are. and a lot of you are right there with George W. Bush in this, homophobes. maybe you should move to Texas to be with all the hicks, since you like them so much. 
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DiMiTry
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Posted : Nov 16, 2005 04:22
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the funny thing is -
a regular redneck will look at all the psytrance kids, all the bright colored clothes, all the drug abuse, the androgenous behavior, and probably think: "faggots." 
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zicom
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Posted : Nov 16, 2005 04:27
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duh we are not in 1938....besides u need to read the guidelines once again----No politics
who cares what redneck thinks....who cares what a gay thinks
u get what u deserve |
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DiMiTry
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Posted : Nov 16, 2005 05:01
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On 2005-11-16 04:27, zicom wrote:
duh we are not in 1938..
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duh, no we are in 2005, people ought to be a little more aware of silly prejudices against other people who might be different from them, but are not hurting anyone. otherwise we'd still be burning women at the stake and calling them witches.
all this hate...
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Surrender
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Posted : Nov 16, 2005 05:01
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ok... thought about this topic since its start.. at first i was shocked and thought maybe its ok to let it go because so many people turned out to be homophobes and uneducated regarding this topic and more... but as time went on - and sane people explained the totally right reasons why there is no reason for the homophobia and the gay bashing.... it just didnt get though... - -
bottom line: it looked like we were condoning it, by letting it go on.
so you know what? this is our site and WE DO NOT EVEN WANNA HOST SUCH DISGUISTING WORDS ON OUR SERVER... you want to be this ignorant, do it outside of this forum. this is our place and this is how we see things. i'm not banning anyone but i feel like showing 10 of you the door and letting you re-invent yourself with more humility next time. this forum is about tolerance and respect, if its the only sane corner of the scene where that still happens, so be it.
dont even bother me with your responses in pm regarding how your homophobic opinion is just an opinion, i dont care... in this case - your opinion is WRONG.
i dont ever wanna see this kind of ignorant neanderthal shit around here anymore, next person i see doing this will be tossed out of in a blink of an eye.
- this is what moderation was invented for.
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moni
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Posted : Nov 16, 2005 10:51
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.. and i'd like to say i'm so happy that i don't surf isratrance. (except for when someone gives me a link to a thread from here to laugh at)
there are some good people here, but we have them on psynews as well. the rest ... what Ott said.
Ott, you rock hahaha |
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Surrender
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Posted : Nov 16, 2005 22:09
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i'd like to take back a few of my words... and admite that i made a mistake in shutting some mouths by locking this topic, i dont think that was the best solution and it was made mostly out of emotion.
so please give me a chance to reiterate:
the fact that people were talking about this in a civlized way (although i didnt agree with them) is a good reason not to close it. in isratrance we have a certain way of seeing things and we are supporters of equality and respect to each other. this is partially why i got so peeved, that on our own turf, members from our own community are saying such things.... but after all - everyone IS entitled to their opinion... but i have to say that i disagree strongly with anyone who's opinions are homophobic.... and i cant say that i will view some of you users in the same light again. ron, i dont know if how i will ever listen to any music that you may produce without this association... (had this problem with ariel zilber as well) most of all i feel dissapointed, i thought that our tribe was united on the equality for all humanity issues... and its not.
not much else to say, sorry for shutting some mouths here - i make mistakes sometimes.
-gadi
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Nathan
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Posted : Nov 16, 2005 22:56
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Thank you Gadi, I very appreciate this move!
I just want to clear my name and say that I am not an homophobic person; and nothing that I wrote on the other topic points that. Homophobe is someone who afraid of them. Well I am not. In the army I am in the office with 4-5 ppl. one of them is homosexual. I have nothing against him. we talk, and we work together with no problems. What I was trying to say in the other tread: homosexuality is not natural. That's all. I do not afraid of them. I do not mind how thy act. Just see it as un natural. Imho).)
To ott: have u red what Surrender posted about Ron?
Well now I have the same problem with one of my favorite artists – you!
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clown
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Posted : Nov 16, 2005 23:19
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we should not let opinions and thoughts destroy our music reputation.. its not because hitler was german that we should ban all german artists.... people like Ron have strong feelings about homosexuality, and he was just speaking his mind.. i do not see the link with "i will never listen to your music again"... for example, astrix has the biggest ego in this scene (that i've encounterd at least) and i still buy and play and listen to his music.. he will not get my suport on, lets say, music forums, but the bottom line is that his music is good none the less, regardless of his sloppy habits..
i mean damn, i have strange hypothises about Gay evolution and i hope very much this will not make people stop listening to my mixes or not buy my compilations.. I do not run around preaching anti-gai pride nor do i gay-bash and im sure Ron is the same.. I think its fun to see what theories others can come up with regarding this subject..
here is another one of mine for those who care to hear, but in the end, right or wrong, it doesn't matter nor will it change life. 
so here goes.. i something think that people who are gay (or become gay, because i have a hard time believing people are born gay) tend to kinda "give up" on the opposite sex.. maybe from trying very hard to "pick up" or because of lack of self confidence.. it is very much easyer to have alot of same sex friends, therefor you are exposed to alot more "same sex" people as yourself.. You do not have to get drunk at a bar to pick up that hot blonde in the corner since you can call friends all the time and invite them over to your house to play video games.. there's much less self pressure in meeting people or approching people from the same sex as well.. you don't have to think of some stupid "pick up" line to make the first move nor do you have to worry about self behaviour (lets say you get too drunk and start spilling beer everywhere or you swear or fart alot).. people from the same sex tend to understand this more and not say "yuk, you pig, you need some manners". ..
I know how it is, i was once a young virgin boy trying to pick up those hot chicks at school, but there was always another boy who was cuter or who had more style and got the girl that i wanted (making me mad against that specific boy).. It was hard at first, even though i might have been gay myself.. but i didn't let that discourage me, i keep trying to get what i want.. now its been 1 year since i've been with the greatest girl in the world for me.. pretty much everything i've ever wanted in a girl (except maybe a pair of double D's..lol)
So you see, with this, some might assume that gay people give up on themselves and take the easy way out of life to at least satisfy there disire to bond with someone. I dunno, its just a thought.. would be great if some gay people would step up in this thread and enlighten us with there experiances (not sexual, but evolution) so maybe some can understand a little better..
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