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___Marsyas
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Posted : Jan 6, 2001 09:17:02
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ok people final stage of a production.
Whats a good technique or tool to use when you want to master a track you finished? im not talking about studio prefessional mastering but home mastering because we just finished a track but for some reason i know it can sound better, quality wise.
any help? plugins -ideas- tutorials????
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___BoriZ
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Posted : Jan 6, 2001 16:18:13
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You can find all the tools you need in steinberg spectral design's mastering edition.
Basically what you need is a good multiband compressor, mastering eq, maybe a goneometer and a good dither.
One method I have heard of for mastering (though never tried it)
is to analyze a professional production you know very well, and then use it as reference material. Just try to make your track sound the same (production wise). Since mastering is merely a technical thing, there's no such thing as "copying ideas" here. |
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___BoriZ
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Posted : Jan 6, 2001 16:20:06
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Oh, and whatever you do - don't process your material too much.
Since this is the digital domain, over processing will make it sound very dull. |
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___MichaelA
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Posted : Jan 6, 2001 17:09:00
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Or you can use 24/96 which is better, and let's you process some more. Right Boris? :) |
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___BoriZ
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Posted : Jan 7, 2001 09:26:55
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I never even thought about the possibilty of recording in any bit resolution lower than 24.
Good point, though!
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___morax
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Posted : Jan 9, 2001 18:48:04
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the bits of the quality here is really not matter 16bit/44.1khz (CD quality btw is enough) is used by almost all the artists.
what is relly metter is how your sounds mixes, i mean all the sounds eq and effects,
if your track has bad mix already, so if you will do the best mastering even it won't be as you will do it on a good mixed track...
after you have good mix track you can use one of the limitering,compressoring and maximizing plugz or progz(t-racks is very good btw)...
i recommand you to do the sound mix on a monitors, and not on home speakers, because you cant here the track FLAT as it should sound on home monitors...
well, have fun and work on your sound..
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___MichaelA
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Posted : Jan 9, 2001 19:39:11
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The point with 24 bits is that you do the processing at this quality, so everything is smooth and good then downgrade to 16 in the end.
It will sound better than if you do everything at 16. |
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___BoriZ
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Posted : Jan 9, 2001 20:09:21
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Ofcourse you have to use a good dither algorithm to
down - convert to 16bit. |
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___MichaelA
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Posted : Jan 9, 2001 20:20:06
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Is there a way to save 24 bit files on .wav?
Where should I save 24 bit files? |
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___BoriZ
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Posted : Jan 9, 2001 21:34:54
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Ofcourse.
Cubase saves 24 bit wavs.
What do you mean by "where"? |
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___sAnDmAn
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Posted : Jan 10, 2001 01:48:31
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go and master in a mastering house !!!!
i mean they dont have work anymore ,,, hehe
anyway they have the best environment +converters (hardware still beter), beter speakers for the task , better acoustics ,etc
just my 2 asimons coins?! :)
you can try AD-DA studio in cfar-saba PRO-TOOLS environment....
*hey wait a minut it was you !!* |
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___yuli
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Posted : Jan 10, 2001 02:27:52
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Yo Morax...
Good points my friend - I also believe is that the quality of the mix is what really counts. As an example I will add that the first Cosmosis album which was out in some 1996 was written on a mackie 1202vlz mixing console ( I'm almost sure about it ) which has 8 mono outs, 2 auxillary for fx and no grouping possiblilities at all + they dumped it on a portable DAT machine - probably some D7 model or even older. Listen to it and check if u can do this sound quality with the 24 bit. I am sure u will find that it's not easy as it looks. At least one thing is good about high tek - u have to b really good, cuz u can't have an excuse if u use it..
About mastering I have to agree with Sandman - mastering is a whole different story than making sound for a track. In places that teach sound engeneering, mastering is one of the standalones that one can choose to study ( sort of same as a psychologist that makes his degree about schizo's for instance ). Therefore it's always good to let the pro ppl do the pro work.
On the other hand - it's not so cheap..
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___BoriZ
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Posted : Jan 10, 2001 09:04:09
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The issue here is mixing with digital consoles/hardware, and processing digital material.
When doing so - every bit is significant.
Analogue mixes/processing of material will allways sound better than digital, simply because there are no bits to lose!
Anyway - how much does it cost to send a tape to
a mastering house?
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___Marsyas
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Posted : Jan 10, 2001 10:06:15
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Ok all that sounds good and i guess my question that remains is like boris
how much does it cost to send a single track for mastering! anyone have anyone know???
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___GuyShanti
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Posted : Jan 10, 2001 11:01:55
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its a day's work (2 sessions, 8 hours)the cost depands on the studio. between 20$ to 100$ per hour. sometimes cheaper.
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