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Hobby producer looking for feedback

El muddles

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Posted : Aug 12, 2013 15:05:34
Hi I produce for fun, but want to step it up a bit, so I'm Lookin for general feedback criticisms etc.
Thank you

http://m.soundcloud.com/muddles
knocz
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Posted : Aug 12, 2013 16:12
Hi El muddles! Welcome to the forum!

Just one thing, in order to receive you must be wanting to give, so don't be surprised if some people don't like you coming here asking for feedback out of the blue.. (and you've posted on the wrong section)

Regarding your tunes, I'm hearing the "Layhey", and it's very crude, very darkish and low, you've got a fat bass there (maybe too fat on a PA system, but you can then EQ on the fly), and you've got some nice ideas, but the beginning is too shallow. Make an intro, make the sounds evolve from that, stay away from just playing the kick and bass - since your kick and bass is so muffled, you need some other sounds to fill out the spectrum.

Then, leads: you tune is somewhat twisted, with nice and unusual effects, but it needs another track of leads on top of it. I would really recommend if you write a whole tune with just the percussion, fx and leads, and put in the kick and bass at the very end (so you can focus more on the rest of the track). Ask around about leads on the forum and you'll be answered

Next come the percussion: way to simple. the snare in the intro just kills the vibe (to much of a shock), and not much evolution. Thing the drummer is a real person, and think what he would do over the time (and try to make the drummer not get bored!).

Hearing the rest of your tunes, the same problems appear. Let me try to sum my thoughts:
Music making has a ton of different areas. Following Gibsons ideas in "the art of mixing", any tune has some sort of balance between Melody, Harmony, Rhythm, Equipment, Instrumentation, Density, Concept, Song structure, Performance, Lyrics and The Mix. In psy, lyrics are not so important (if even existent), but the rest in your tune is not balanced, as you have some parts that you've wen't deep into, and others you've just bypassed. I think if you focused a bit on each concept (and more in the rhythm, melody, harmony and composition in the beginning) you could take this up a couple of levels!


Also, listen to some Hallucinogen, then grab a sequencer of an arpeggiator and send a trippy MIDI line into a synth, play with the synths oscillator types until you get a tone you like, play with the envelopes to make it respond to your likings, and mess around with filters and distortion over time (bringing tension in and releasing out!). Make these effects move over time.

After, mix everything together and produce the track (have a lot of small details in account: even after 15+ years, I still hear new details and ideas in Hallucinogens's albums.. it's not just a 4/4 kick and bass and repeating sounds)

Finally, keep up and don't despair: learning to produce music is a never-ending life long task.

          Super Banana Sauce http://www.soundcloud.com/knocz
El muddles

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Posted : Aug 13, 2013 03:09
Cheers for taking the time to listen, and thank you for the tips, will def have a go at making a full track -kick and bass, sounds challenging. "gibsons art of mixing.. I'll look it up"
Cheers
El muddles

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Posted : Aug 13, 2013 03:13
Also sorry if it's posted in the wrong spot... I'm new to isratrance in fact forums in general, and unsure of protocol, don't mean to offend anyone by lack of participation, I just Hav'nt been here before.
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