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Hihat length in milliseconds ?

Conny
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Posted : Feb 6, 2008 12:04
Anyone who has any suggestions on how long you should keep your hihats so the timing sounds ok ?
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Posted : Feb 6, 2008 13:27
what timing?           Crackling universes dive into their own neverending crackle...
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Conny
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Posted : Feb 6, 2008 14:03
Im thinking abouyt the timing to the song.
Often when i don´t shorten my hihats in an audioeditor, they don´t seem to be in timing with my song
EYB
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Posted : Feb 6, 2008 14:36
please try to explain it more explicit what u mean with 'not in time with my song'


do u mean they are just to long and are overlapping or do u have an loop that doesn't fit the tracktempo anymore after cutting a part of it?            Signature
EYB
Noized

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Posted : Feb 6, 2008 14:38
generally i use a sampler for my hh and adjust the volume envelopes decay to make the hihats fit into the track..            Signature
makus
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Posted : Feb 6, 2008 15:00
Well, hihat length in milliseconds can be very diffrent!           
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Noized

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Posted : Feb 6, 2008 15:02
yes, a 130 bmp track can manage much longer hh than a 165 bpm track            Signature
makus
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Posted : Feb 6, 2008 15:14
exactly           
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Conny
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Posted : Feb 6, 2008 17:29
Sorry true length for hihats could be very different
for different BPM´s.
But generally when i add a hihat to my kick and bass it usally sounds to play´s a bit slower and it sound that it hasn´t the right timimng.
EYB yes it sounds a bit that the sound overlaps
that the hihat is a bit longer than it should be.
I´ve tried to adjust with the decay on the hihats and it makes it fit much better.
The question that im asking about what the hihatlength usally is in milliseconds is because i´ve found a i have found this kind of "magic formula" for kick´s and bass where i sample and cut a certain amount in soundforge and export it back to fruity loops.
Now im wondering if anyone has a suggestion about a generall hihatlength in milliseconds though i understand this can be very different
EYB
Noized

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Posted : Feb 6, 2008 17:51
As u use FL just load the hihat sample into the standart sampler, then adjust the volume ADSR to ur needs. E.g. zero attack, decay to one step, zero sustain and zero release. Furthermore u can set cut by itself, this way u can be sure there is no overlaping.            Signature
shachar
Basic

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Posted : Feb 8, 2008 13:54
people, stop looking for the "Magic Numbers"!!
there is no correct answer for questions like this.

Elad
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Posted : Feb 8, 2008 14:34
hehe yes there is : 42

neh , it is depend on the sample and the feeling you want from it...

i can defintly recomend to not have the hihats overlap too much it can cause bad hiss on the track (so just make it as long until the next one hit in can be good as well)
layering on other side i like alot just need to be done carefully
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Posted : Feb 8, 2008 17:16
i don't know which resources you trust Elad but i've concluded that the magic number is: 44 (due to the bananemian theory)
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EYB
Noized

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Posted : Feb 8, 2008 17:30
Afaik it is 23            Signature
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Posted : Feb 8, 2008 22:17
just have fun, f'real           
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