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Oni Katsu
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Posted : Sep 22, 2011 16:52:04
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Hai gais, i wonder if highpassing the very low frequencies of a kickdrum is a good idea?
When i play my tracks at the highest volume that my mac can manage, the loudspeakers start to make this disgusting crackling sound
But as i removed the frequencies up to 34hz everything is going smoothly, does this affect the power of my kick in any way? i don't have much accurate mixing apparatus.
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Bar Mitzwa
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Posted : Sep 22, 2011 17:09
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good Q!
here the same!
i dont know if i should leave low´s of the kick or of the bass!
but this time i leave the bass low and cut (like bar mitzwa) a lil bit of the kick´s low end!
example:
i make my bass @ 50 hz and try to generate my kick around 75 hz and cut it "there where"!
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faxinadu
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Posted : Sep 22, 2011 17:20
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On 2011-09-22 16:52:04, Oni Katsu wrote:
Hai gais, i wonder if highpassing the very low frequencies of a kickdrum is a good idea?
When i play my tracks at the highest volume that my mac can manage, the loudspeakers start to make this disgusting crackling sound
But as i removed the frequencies up to 34hz everything is going smoothly, does this affect the power of my kick in any way? i don't have much accurate mixing apparatus.
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you are doing it as it should be done, 20-30hz off the ultra lows will keep things clean
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panike
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Posted : Sep 22, 2011 17:20
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I've read around the interwebz that freqs below 30hz are inaubible so i think it's ok for you to cut them
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woodster77
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Posted : Sep 22, 2011 18:53
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isnt it a good idea to low shelf your audio to match your monitors ie if your monitors only go down to 20-30 hz thats where i would shelf the entire mix
whilst you dont hear these frequencies they will still have an impact on your overall headroom
as with kick and bass..depends on the eq profile of the tune
but yeah your pretty much in the right area
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woodster77
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Posted : Sep 22, 2011 18:53
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isnt it a good idea to low shelf your audio to match your monitors ie if your monitors only go down to 20-30 hz thats where i would shelf the entire mix
whilst you dont hear these frequencies they will still have an impact on your overall headroom
as with kick and bass..depends on the eq profile of the tune
but yeah your pretty much in the right area
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Sep 22, 2011 20:39
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woodster77
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Posted : Sep 23, 2011 01:23
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sorry ....
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woodster77
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Posted : Sep 23, 2011 01:25
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sorry ....i meant high pass
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dj chichke
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Posted : Sep 23, 2011 02:40
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Upavas
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Posted : Sep 23, 2011 03:41
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Don't worry about headroom, that is looking at it the wrong way, always keep enough headroom, I keep -6 db headroom on my master, so the question never arises... I hp my kick usually or often around 30 db, and my bass never above 40db, even 40 is already high for me.
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hearttricks
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Posted : Sep 23, 2011 05:32
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.... you mean hz? |
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klippel
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Posted : Sep 23, 2011 09:58
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i tended to highpass my kick and bass at something like 30 hz and in some cases this really improved the sound, but:
it does affect the "natural" sound of a kick bass combo often. in general i do not highpass slower and groovy stuff like downtempo and prog where a deep lowend is critical for an earthshaking sound.
for full on and fast 16th basses it can really improve clarity and loudnesse reachable with your mix. but best to use your ears if your monitors provide the possibility to hear what you do in this freq range ;-)
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PoM
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Posted : Sep 23, 2011 12:06
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look at a anaylzer if you can t monitor accurately low frequency, it wont tell you everyhting but it can help , a good headphone could be helpfull too and the more expensive solution is in addition a sub or full range monitors, when i high pass it depend the filter used and the mix but around 28 to 32 hz i think its safe in many case.. if you synthetize your kick you should not really need to high pass it, make it just with the right amount of low end, with the kick lenght and pitch modulation you can control this .
sometimes i high pass the kick and bass exaclty at the same freq with the same filter so it affect both sound the same.. can result in tighter sound but you may need extra processing to get the bassline low end right |
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Sep 24, 2011 06:21
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A related question:
If we are high-passing our signal at 30 Hz (or 20Hz as 00 Fleming suggests) - why not do it once and for all on the master? Or at least on the whole kick-bass group. It's the same filter with the same settings, isn't it? |
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