zwarag
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Posted : Oct 31, 2013 12:29
You guys are osom and a bit silly^^
Thanks for the information and the opinions.
I also enjoi not bouncing, but lastly i leared that there are some benefits. But as Upavas says, you'll lose some kind of possibilities. Or need to invest more work to do some changes..
@Upavas, what facebook group do you mean? I can only find Portugeese groups talking about psytrance production. Is there a english, german or italien one you could suggest?
frisbeehead
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Posted : Oct 31, 2013 15:37
I think there's no harm in bouncing down to audio, provided you still have your main synths at hand. You can do so very easily by means of saving the presets on a folder within the project's own folder, and Logic even allows one to save all the channel settings - with all the processing that's been applied to it. Easy as pie, total recall.
Besides, there's always the "freeze" function. Saves the CPU cycles and allows you to go back, write some more phrases, automation, etc.
Having this in mind, nothing is wrong. Just depends on the workflow. But there's certainly a lot of things that can't be done in midi, modern DAW has great flexibility when working with audio for precise editings with total control. A lot of this has made it into some forms of music, like can you possibly imagine Skrillex doing what he does keeping everything in midi? Not me.
One of the things you see happening a lot is using pieces of audio like you'd use a granular synthesizer. Like picking a very small render of the sound, repeating it while raising pitch and/or automating the song's tempo. That's a very common high tech trick. This is manual stutter/glitch stuff using the daw and modern audio editting stuff, taking profit of new stuff like non destructive time-stretch (like flex time and warp), highly flexible pitch edits (like melodyne), the very simple reverse, rendering versions with fx and some without it, and building patterns using this different textures. If you place a wild flanger, for example, on some synthesizer sound you have in midi, it easily gets out of control, easy way to deal with it is to render it down.
So if you have this different versions of the same sounds, wet and dry stuff, you can easily build phrases where this different textures talk to each other. And that is certainly taking place in most High Tech music, as it is on Shpongle, for example - highly detailed and precise edits in there. Not that you can't have a synth playing some part by itself, whatever suits the track, but the glitchy, stuttered, micro edit stuff, different fx patterns triggered as if they were drums in different positions on the stereo field and depth, go wonder...
It's nice to have a good balance of both. I like to ear a synth line going on by itself, but I also like this new kinds of trickery. It's all part of the palete!
Upavas
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Posted : Oct 31, 2013 23:38
Download and check out the last track, it is 180bpm. I composed it that way. keep envelopes tight. Less elements in the track structure is more... no need for bouncing anything... and the synthesis is the same as in the slower tracks...
oh nice, thanks for the link!
frisbeehead
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Posted : Nov 3, 2013 02:45
