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Hi-hat tricks

I.D.a.N
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Posted : Jan 16, 2003 23:13
Many artists use a hi-hat trick in their tracks (e.g. Astral projection) which makes the hi-hat go faster.

I am sure most of you know what I mean, so is there any one who knows how can I create this trick
dekel
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Posted : Jan 16, 2003 23:24
i dont realy know what u mean but i think delay will help you...           "just when i was about to go out, they pulled me back in..."
Waveman
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Posted : Jan 17, 2003 00:23
Not exactly sure what you're talking about, but alot of psy artists (like Astral) throw in 32nd note closed hihat runs. If you've got a 16th note hihat pattern, just put a closed hat note a 32nd note interval just before a downbeat.
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BrainStorm
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Posted : Jan 17, 2003 18:20
hey may someone please explain it better?

i am thinking of this technique too and i studied to perform "faster running hi-hats" in Reason with its sequencer
but i guess its not very right way

Astral, IM.. many other bands got it
i think it got something to do with BPM change for hihats..
steve
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Posted : Jan 17, 2003 19:03
I am also going to make same request as Brainstorm.. percussion in general has been bugging me for a while. With all the established artists browsing this forum can someone give more info on how to get those darn hats to go faster!!!

cheers
I.D.a.N
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Posted : Jan 17, 2003 21:57
Ok I found out how to do it in reason. change the size of the hi-hat to a smaller size (alt+the pencil icon), than put smaller size hi-hat close together and that will give you the tssssssss efeect.
Hels


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Posted : Jan 17, 2003 22:12
Hmm...can you be more specific? Maybe give an example?
I doubt artists change the BPM (sort of a dumb thing to do in a dance track). You could be speaking of any number of techniques
The easiest way to make high hats to go faster is to double the tempo/BPM (from 140 to 280) and then double the "bar length" in a sequencer (say from 16 to 32 or 32 to 64)...I dont think thats what youre speaking of though...?
Plan_B
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Posted : Jan 18, 2003 15:27
the simplest way to do so is to double the resolution of the sequencer from 1/16 to 1/32, and double the space between two hats, and make 3hats in a row when u want it to go faster.

or, u can crack up the "Flam" knob in the drum machine.
(reason for example).

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Tomer
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Posted : Jan 18, 2003 19:21
i cant realy see the problem in doing that !

just pick higher resolution as plan_b said & draw it...

1/16 1/32 1/64 it doesnt matter...           visit us on myspace.com/yotopia
BrainStorm
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Posted : Jan 18, 2003 19:23
hey Plan_B, thanks for the info..
i know this trick with matrix sequencer.. still im looking for a better way
i will try to play with Flam though....

currently i do running hats in sequencer window.. i just change its resolution to 64-32 and play wish bars.. also not the best way

maybe there's some kind of VSTi for making percussion?


Mike A
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Posted : Jan 18, 2003 22:28
Quote:

On 2003-01-18 19:23, BrainStorm wrote:
maybe there's some kind of VSTi for making percussion?


Use Waldorf Attack. Look at presets to get the hang of it, and then tweak it a bit to get the sound you want.

Idan - another important thing when working with hi-hats is to give a different velocity to your hats. It will sound much more dynamic and alive.
I.D.a.N
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Posted : Jan 19, 2003 21:30
Ok

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