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FattyAcid
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Posted : Mar 3, 2009 10:24
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Acid, do you know the addage "too many chiefs not enough indians"?
Being an irreplaceable indian is the best place to be....why not just help make the events close to you better with the addition of your energy rather than adding another drop in the bucket....interference patterns caused by two pebbles being dropped in the same bucket, in this case, are ugly...just add what you can to the rock already falling, and the splash becomes yours as much as anyone elses, and its symmetry just feels better, if youre a water molecule on the surface you'll definitely get higher on the wave if the shockwave originates from a single rock being dropped in your bucket/environment rather than several small pebbles, which cause just as much disturbance, but are harder to see the beauty in such assymetrical chaos..not that its not there...smell what I'm steppin in?
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BrainLizzard
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Posted : Mar 3, 2009 11:12
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It's a movie we have seen through and through :
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On 2009-03-03 09:56, Acid_Dream wrote:
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On 2009-03-03 07:40, BrainLizzard wrote:
Yes, please go back to Sleep or use your PM button or.......
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Wow.
To those of you who actually took the time to read what I wrote... thank you.
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We are totally sorry to have given a bad impression, We were reflecting "TALK LESS"..
What you said that reads very dear to our thought/freedom :
"(3 times we went)" and " it was just a dream... or so we thought. We started making it happen when we began to believe in our own capabilities to shape our reality. Our inspiration was due to the theories of Quantum Physics and our rebirth"
It hints towards the Dream Spell of sorts and the awakening.... We like the number 3 and math
It's the medication they got us on, them damn hippies...
For maximum entertainment we suggest you take it at face value and accept it as channeled material... of course you don't have to believe it, Just focus on the topic.....Hey Everyone...
 
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lyricfree
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Posted : Mar 3, 2009 15:23
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bio diesel sounds good |
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Ascension
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Posted : Mar 3, 2009 15:31
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I don't think this discussion should be done through PMs. It's good to have an open discussion (also sometimes called a forum) about these things so many people can input their ideas.
I agree with Senor Fatty about being an indisposable Indian. Especially in the area you are in Acid, there are already well established orgs. Unless you can find a spot to consistently bring in people without interfering with the other parties going on, there's not much point to run your own parties (yet).
I really suggest you take my advice to help out with other parties first and develop a network of connections. You gain experience in how parties are organized and thrown as well as gaining the connections to the people who have resources to make these things happen (you also learn how much parties cost). After you get a good grip on things and have enough connections it will be FAR easier to start your own group (even if it's just 2-3 parties a year at first). Don't try to rush this, I know you have some equipment already, but nothing is more valuable than the experience in handling parties and having connections with those people.
More specifically this is exactly what I would do in your situation. Contact the orgs of the next party in your area BEFORE the party. Ask to help out with setup/running the door/cleanup. Even if they say they have enough people, when you get there, find the org and ask if they still need help with anything (some people don't show up sometimes or the org doesn't realize they need more help than they planned for). While doing this, talk to some other people who are helping out, they are likely to be djs/promoters/sound people who you need to get to know. At an appropriate time, mention to the org that you have equipment that would be sufficient to run a second stage. Ask if he would like to use it at his next party. You can offer to do it for free, but personally I'd ask for a small amount (~$100) or some comps for your friends. Free things are nice, but an org might be weary about how good it will be/will be run. If he doesn't need sound, still give him your number/contact info and let him know that it is at his disposal (if this works for you). You still may get a call to run sound at the next show - sometimes unexpected things come up in this area. Either way, you have a good "in" with the org and things will progress from there.
I'm no expert on the subject and anyone else is free to chime in on my thoughts, this just seems like the logical way to go about things. Diving off the deep end always looks like fun, but you have to remember that all those people started by dipping their toes in the shallow end first.
PS- if I ever see you at a party we'll have to have some QM talks    http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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BrainLizzard
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Posted : Mar 3, 2009 15:32
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Good points
 
"If You Always Think What You've Always Thought, You Will Always Feel What You've Always Felt" |
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lyricfree
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Posted : Mar 3, 2009 18:22
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i could be wrong but from what i read, the person wasn't trying to be an organizer- the person was trying to offer their services/equipment for rental.
advice i probably shouldn't be giving, because i have no personal experience, is if your determined to make this venture into a life sustaining profession, really really market and develop yourself(this will take time)- there are not nearly enough psy events to make any sort of living off of- at all! even psytrance celebrities dont make their living off of this- so i would also venture out into other genres
also i understand u not meeting the orgs yet, but if u want to get serious with this project then u should try. the orgs dont always walk up to everyone at the party- they r usually running around-- best time to catch them is what ppl said before- during cleanup |
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Acid_Dream
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Posted : Mar 3, 2009 19:26
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Oh don't worry I already plan to start contacting the orgs.
My intention was never to become an organizer of sorts but rather a traveling word/music spreader.
We were going to travel to different states, and try to find like minded people and open them up to something they may have never heard about.
We have been doing that with our friends. They all primarily being "metal heads" hated the idea of "trance" music... until we introduced them to all aspects of the music. Now most of them enjoy it and understand it and have been changed permanently in some way to think differently... so now we need to find new people to influence. HAHA or so that was our plan
Its not happening RIGHT now like we were hoping... but with time..who knows.
"We are totally sorry to have given a bad impression, We were reflecting "TALK LESS".."
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Acid_Dream
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Posted : Mar 3, 2009 19:27
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"I don't think this discussion should be done through PMs. It's good to have an open discussion (also sometimes called a forum) about these things so many people can input their ideas."
My sentiments exactly.
Thats what forums are for. :-P |
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light-o-matic
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Posted : Mar 3, 2009 20:38
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You are already having a conversation, right now, with one of the major organizers of three of the parties you have been to.. so yea, it's not really that hard to get to know people.
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mentalcandy
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Posted : Mar 3, 2009 20:48
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i staY IN nYC as well......,... in total supporttt for u brotha.......
i hope you guys have a nice adventure.............
PM me if ur down for a toke.........
bOm
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vaxination
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Posted : Mar 3, 2009 22:01
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I'd say your intentions are good, you have fresh energy and are obviously into the music so keep coming out and offer your help where ever its needed. throw small renegade parties if you want, the more the merrier but I think the sentiments are if we work together we pull of more well produced events instead of everyone branching off and throwing smaller less put together shows. so definately plug in with organizers whose shows you identify with and try to help where you can..
honestly coming out and dancing and contributing good energy to the scene is needed as much as help in most places which I think where this indian and chief stuff is going.
but really, welcome to the fold, and keep it goan!
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Acid_Dream
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Posted : Mar 3, 2009 22:13
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"You are already having a conversation, right now, with one of the major organizers of three of the parties you have been to.. so yea, it's not really that hard to get to know people. "
I know its not that hard. Just stupid excuses of the past.
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Acid_Dream
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Posted : Mar 4, 2009 07:57
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Hey, by the way... is there anyone out there who needs help of any kind with their next event?!??!
Let me know, I'd be honored to be a part of your event. |
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FattyAcid
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Posted : Mar 5, 2009 03:16
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On 2009-03-04 07:57, Acid_Dream wrote:
Hey, by the way... is there anyone out there who needs help of any kind with their next event?!??!
Let me know, I'd be honored to be a part of your event.
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This thread should be shortened to start with thst comment
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Machi
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Posted : Mar 5, 2009 03:28
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