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Help with Waldorf Microwave XT
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UIU
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Posted : Aug 17, 2004 07:05
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If someone has a microwave xt, can you explain how you are using it to save the sounds for every song? It doesn't seem to work like my nord lead. Do you create a new multi for every song? It seems like I am gonna run out of multis very quickly this way. Also about program change. Is there a way to change a sound for a specific channel from within the sequencer? or is this only possible to be done from the hardware? because when I am trying to do this, the whole multi changes. In other words is it possible to change programs like I do with my nord lead?
Also when I am not using it in multi mode and I am using it in sound mode, I can only select the bank b and not the bank a. I think the problem is that cubase sx I can only install microwave and not microwave xt from midi device manager.
Also does anyone have that sound editor for XT? Is it any good? Can I use it while having my sequencer open?
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ZilDoggo
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Posted : Aug 17, 2004 23:08
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yeah., you make multi's .,
and yes, you run out of them.,
but i think you can do midi dumps (?).,
so you could dump all the settings to a separate midi track in your sequencer.,
about prog change.,
(if i remember correctly)
the multi itself also has a midi channel setting somewhere.,
if you send a prog change to that midi channel it will change the multi.,
i think the multi is usually set to chan.1 so if you try to do a prog change on channel 1 then it will change the multi.,
about bank stuff.,
you propably need to do a bank change (check the midi implementation charts)
this may involve some midi proggin or sometimes (i'm not sure about the xt) even some sys-ex.,
i've tried a few editors some time ago.,
sound-diver works ok.,.
some other tools are a bit more vague.,
but i've seen some tools that can replace the wave ables so it might be cool o search for them.,
anyway.,
that's what i know.,
greets.,
aka/.,,. |
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PsYmAnTiCs=]
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Posted : Aug 18, 2004 00:21
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I had a XTK, which is very close to the microwave. I tended to use sonar or sound diver to capture & transmit sysex. On the XTK, there were only a limited number of multis, and a limited amount of voices & FX available per multi (sometimes I'd use a multi, other times I'd just use one voice fully loaded with effects then prg change when needed, it depended on what my track required at the time).
As Zildoggo said, to change a voice within a multi, you may need to assign the microwave to repond to program changes from a specific channel, to record a prg change (say within cubase), you'd need to have the prg change send enabled on the microwave (and not have sysex messages filtered out within cubase). Also, if you are daisy chaining synths this may cause problems if one synth does not want to transmit the microwave prg change controller properly (if you have multiple midi in/out's, give the microwave it's own midi output, this will make life a touch simpler).
The actual prg change message is made of 2 values, one (on my XTK) was a msb controller that selects the bank (A or B), then the Prg Change controller selects which voice within the current bank you want to use.
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UIU
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Posted : Aug 18, 2004 00:35
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Thanks. I saw how my nord lead changed presets and did the same. Athough probably it will introduce the problems you said.
Now to my next question. How do I connect both synths to my soundcard? I have only one midi in and out on my soundcard. And a nord Lead keyboard. |
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PsYmAnTiCs=]
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Posted : Aug 18, 2004 00:48
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Use your nord as the controller synth. Connect tis as normal (nord midi out to card midi in, nord in to card out), now get another cable from your big bag of midi leads, run this one from your microwave in to the midi THRU of the nord. You'll have to assign the midi channels for your micro to be different from the nord.
Do yourself a favour and get at least a 4in 4out midi card (cheap and life changing!!!!).
You will now have to share the 16 midi channels between your 2 synths (the price of one midi in/out I'm afraid  ).
Check your microwave manual for detailed info on how to use your module's prg change (& msb) controllers (Waldorf's XTK manual was exceptionally well written, I imagine the microwave is no different.
Have a scout around on the net (now that Waldorf are no more) for the last operating system updates and presets (plus new wavetables). I think you may also be able to import XTK presets and wavetables too, I know the XTK can import microwave 1 &2 plus a few other Waldorf synths presets. |
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UIU
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Posted : Aug 18, 2004 00:52
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My nord lead keyboard doesn't have midi thru. My XT does. What do I do now?
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PsYmAnTiCs=]
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Posted : Aug 18, 2004 01:05
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Erm, okay. Try this (bear in mind that it's 11pm here, I've been landscape gardening from 9am - 8pm, plus I'm trashed off skunk %) ).
Card OUT -> XT IN (sends midi to XT)
Card IN -> Nord OUT (Uses Nord to send midi info to PC)
XT THRU -> Nord IN (sends copy of midi data from XT IN port - THRU - to the Nord)
Again, you'll have to share midi channels between the two.
Hope this is it dude! |
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UIU
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Posted : Aug 21, 2004 13:44
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Thanks, it works. One probem, though. I can't get the emagic soundDiver to recognise my microwave. It recognises the nord lead, but not the microwave. I have tried checking the box that says midi thru in the settings in sounbdDiver, but nothing. But it works if I connect midi in and out directly to the microwave. Do I need a`midi interface to use both nord lead and microwave?
Also, how do you hear the sounds you are making with the emagic soundDiver? Do you have to open cubase at the same time? |
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PsYmAnTiCs=]
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Posted : Aug 23, 2004 21:44
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If you are sharing midi ports then you'll have to swop your cables for dumping to sound diver (I don't use it so I've got no idea how it works!).
As far as I know though, Sound Diver is only for storing presets and sysex data, not for creating new patches or sound creation (I may be wrong, but it's never happened before )
A good 4 in 4 out midi card/interface will give you lots of room for each synth to have it's own dedicated midi port + you get 16 midi channels on every port. So you can have 64 midi channels at once if you like! |
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