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Hikurinc
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Posted : May 2, 2005 02:53
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Hi, i'm new here so first of all hello to everyone, i wish you all are having a peaceful moment right now.
Well, my problem now is, i want to know a way to make my bassline sounds like 1/15 or 1/16, becouse when the bass is moved a little from the 1/16 line then it produces a much more integrated sound between bass and kick....
i want to do this in cubase sx or nuendo...
thanks a lot.
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : May 2, 2005 04:28
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In the arrange window, select your bass track so that its parameters appear in the Inspector to the left of the track list. Use the 'Delay' control (third in the list of controls at the top of the Inspector, underneath the volume and pan controls) to shift the bassline forwards or backwards in time (the parameter is calculated in milliseconds).
IMO it's still best if you quantise your bassline to 16ths (or whatever) in the Key Edit window as this will keep the timing consistent withing itself, but if you want to shift the timing of the bassline as a whole against the kick, use the Delay parameter.
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Hikurinc
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Posted : May 2, 2005 15:09
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woow, that's EXACTLY what i needed, thanks a lot!!! what a fast feedback  :D:D:D
thanks a lot.
BTW..i'm having a problem in nuendo and cubase....my kick has no clip when i hear it in solo, and none of my other tracks, but when i play all of them together, the mix clips, so i always have to down de volume a lot, ....even if i use compressors and a very-worked eq.... |
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vox
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Posted : May 2, 2005 16:37
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On 2005-05-02 15:09, Hikurinc wrote:
woow, that's EXACTLY what i needed, thanks a lot!!! what a fast feedback :D:D:D
thanks a lot.
BTW..i'm having a problem in nuendo and cubase....my kick has no clip when i hear it in solo, and none of my other tracks, but when i play all of them together, the mix clips, so i always have to down de volume a lot, ....even if i use compressors and a very-worked eq....
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well you answered your own question - lower the volume. if you make your track around the kick you cannot start with kick hitting the 0 dB margin. start with kick at, let's say, -6 dB and build from there. as you have already seen, it is easier to turn the mix volume up than volume of all tracks down.
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fuzzikitten
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Posted : May 2, 2005 17:31
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Hikurinc,
Is your kick overlapping your bass?
If you have a bass note playing at the same time as a kick, you will get a lot of peaks in volume at those points. There are ways around this, such as good EQing and/or side-chain compression between the kick and the bass.
If you're careful to not have a kick and bass play at the same time, make sure your kick isn't so long that it is still playing when the bass comes in. This was a big problem for me.
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Hikurinc
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Posted : May 2, 2005 20:25
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no, my kick isn't overlaping the bass, the structure is kbbbkbbbk....and so on, but the problem is, that i have to get the mix VERY low, even if no channel is clipping and even if the bass and kick haves its own freq range....is there any way to get a higher volume after the mix or something like that¡?
Jeje, i have a lot of questions, another one is... what are the differences between 16 and 24 bits....does it is a really difference between 16 and 24 bits¡?
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Freeflow
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Posted : May 3, 2005 21:57
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http://www.tweakheadz.com/16_vs_24_bit_audio.htm
read it Hikurinc
and about the volume... do you want the kick and bass to be the most evident parts?
Read some about the Fletcher and Munson theory
http://www.sfu.ca/sonic-studio/handbook/Equal_Loudness_Contours.html
one of the most common reason for clipping in a mix is that you have some sounds that is occuping the same frequency areas...
consider pitching and/or cutting out un-necessary frequencies from certain sounds..
and there is nothing wrong with a low mix, if you can turn the volume up and everything sounds good, of course there are things to consider if you look at things from a technical point of view but that is nothing to get hooked about..
yes you can gain more volume of a mix if its well balanced... if it bothers you that much try to strapp a limiter on the master out, but only to hear if something is distorting when its maxed, i would not suggest you to compose with a limiter, it can color the sound and kill transients. and the fact that it evens out the overall sound makes it difficult to reveal clipping, so if you start to compose with a limiter and decide to turn it off you might find alot of clipping...
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Freeflow
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Posted : May 3, 2005 22:21
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