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help needed, choosing a soundcard

Sound Surgeon
Crater / Mish-kah

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Posted : Feb 7, 2006 21:04
i want to buy a soundcard for music production. i dont wont to buy a really cheap shitty card and replace it in half a year.
so i need your help, what card do i need?
i dont use synths and stuff and dont intend to, only have a midi keyboard that i love (oxygen8).

what do i need to get?
(a new computer is planned after the soundcard)
Get-a-fix
Getafix

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Posted : Feb 7, 2006 21:47
You've gotta be more specific if you need any help..What kind of soundcard do you want (Firewire, PCI, USB, PCMCIA)?! What's your budget?           http://www.soundcloud.com/getafixmusic
Sound Surgeon
Crater / Mish-kah

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Posted : Feb 7, 2006 21:52
PCI? just put it inside the pc

my budget for now is about 1500sheks, however i can wait month or two and get more if i will know that i need it...
Get-a-fix
Getafix

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Posted : Feb 7, 2006 22:00
ok that's like $300..well there aren't a lot of options for that budget..i can suggest these:

EMU 1212m
http://www.zzounds.com/item--EMU1212M

or if you want to save up more (costs double your budget) then get this:

RME HDSP 9632:
http://www.zzounds.com/item--RMEHDSP9632

or
EMU 1820M
http://www.zzounds.com/item--EMU1820M

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Sound Surgeon
Crater / Mish-kah

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Posted : Feb 7, 2006 22:07
another question....
is it an option to seek for second handed soundcard or avoid it and get a new fresh one?

ive been always told to get those Delta66\44,
what about those?
e-motion
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Feb 7, 2006 23:07
delta's are real cheap, i'm looking forward to get one but i have a doubt. what things use digital out and what things use analog out? what do i loose without digital out? i'm really a noob with hardware (even more than producing lol). speakers are analog out right?
it's that 44 doesn't have digital out. what do i loose with that?
Aviad

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Posted : Feb 8, 2006 06:56
I won't say you need digital inputs/outputs, well only in case you have another equipment which has those.
The only problem with Delta serie, these cards have no midi interface on them which is much more usefull rather digital i/o. Think you will get digital synth, you will need to buy midi interface.

Second hands equipment is good buy for those who know exactly the product, because you can buy damaged product and you won't see that damage in the first place untill some other person who been experienced with such hardware while it works won't agree with you. I wouldn't buy second hand monitors or sound card, because i have no idea of general failures these may have.
Fragletrollet
Fragletrollet

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Posted : Feb 8, 2006 09:08
I have Delta 1010LT and Im very happy with it ;=)
cytopia
Cytopia.org

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Posted : Feb 8, 2006 16:24
I used the RME HSDP9632 and its worked without a glitch for two years now.

In future I would consider getting a EMU card...

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ThiagoNAKA
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Posted : Feb 8, 2006 16:41
Hi Michael!

First of all... Did u get some nice monitors??? Cause imo u need "good pc+good sc+good monitors".

If u already have the monitors, here´s my advices:

1)Check the type of connection u want(PCI, USB, Firewire). It´s important u to think about your laptop(if u plan to play live) and if u will take your sc to the stage. If so, think about the size of the sc, and if the laptop has the connection.

2)What kinds of inputs u want??? U said that u will not use synths... What about a mic?? If u want to use it, u will probably need a XLR input(48 V). My advice is to choose a sc with XLR and P10 inputs.

3)How many outputs do u want? For monitoring the music 2 monos is ok. But if u plan to play live with this sc it could be nice to have more outputs.

I´m sure after u answering these questions u will find the sc for u.

i´working with M Audio 410 FW. Not so stable, but nice overall machine, and not so big, so I can take it to stage.
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S.D6 (Yakir .B.)
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Feb 8, 2006 18:14
if you low with money i really recommend you to take the:
Delta 1010lt
and if you have a little bit more of paper's (money) take the:
RME HDSP 9632:
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Sound Surgeon
Crater / Mish-kah

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Posted : Feb 8, 2006 18:18
no monitors for now. i need soundcard first, than a new computer, and only then the monitors will come

1. i guess i need PCI for now. it will take some time till i will play live (lots of time)
2. i dont think i need inputs, maybe 1-2 max
3. outputs for monitors are enought

what about those Delta44\66?are they any good?

how do i know if the soundcard is damaged or no? a first look at the card is enough? (no damaged circuits or cracks)
S.D6 (Yakir .B.)
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Feb 9, 2006 02:12
on my opihion,
you better choose a sound card with 4 inputs minimum and that's because you dont know if you would like to have serveral hardware Synthesizer's in the future....
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ThiagoNAKA
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Feb 9, 2006 02:48
Imo, after the infos u gave, the Delta 44/66 will fit your needs for sure.

It has inputs if u get a synth, and it´s much more stable than USB ones(a weak pc can have some problems to handle a USB sc).

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Cardinals Cartel
Black Machine

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Posted : Feb 9, 2006 08:37
Quote:

On 2006-02-07 21:04, Sound Surgeon wrote:

i want to buy a soundcard for music production. i dont wont to buy a really cheap shitty card and replace it in half a year.
so i need your help, what card do i need?

what do i need to get?
(a new computer is planned after the soundcard)




Quote:

On 2006-02-07 22:07, Sound Surgeon wrote:

another question....
is it an option to seek for second handed soundcard or avoid it and get a new fresh one



This topic of all thos sound cards be grounded and
appear here many (1.000.000) Time .. Pls use the search and u will find and get the right answer .

1. First buy the computer . Work in phase , Step by
step .
2. Never heard the delta consequence and results so i cant talk on this specific pattern over here . I use ESI 'Waveterminal' for 2 years and belive me its satisfact . The price is not in the sky and the
quality is super professional ! .

The real sound card is your ears .

3. Always new is better but at the same time you
can buy sec' hand (Dont think is matter in the professional high degree) .

4 . Pm me we have (Oscuro & i) here 2 W.Terminal
sound cards (I see you an israeli so no prob) 700 nis , You can come and get it .

5 . Good luck in your selection .. !
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