i try to figure out how this kind of baseline is made but not succesfully...
here is a link with an example (and some nice girls )
i am more after that small choped-like bass parts that have much power and strong attack. i can hear the sidechaining and the pitch bends but that small bass parts....hmmm driving me crazy...
i mean it must be some art of sidechaining the kick with the bass (ok thats nothing new) and/or some gate with drums maybe? i am pretty sure its not all just chop chop and done... it must be some kind of trick...
can anyone help?
ps: i know thats very deadmauish (and not that psytrance) but i dont wanna sound just like that... i just wanna know how this technique works.
ps2: or maybe show me another cool forum that fits more to the music style and the people are willing to help like here
thanx!
loki
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Posted : Apr 30, 2011 21:14
there could be a gate, but i think it's more likely he's just using a separate bass sound for the short glitchy part, with a fast attack and tight filter envelope to get the punch at the beginning.
so - detuned oscs, distortion (multiband or band-split), and a short decay filter envelope is all there is to it. if it's not compressed enough from the distortion, compress the fuck out of it. it sounds heavily eq'd as well, but that's not a surprise. take a medium-curve Q and drop it at say 5db and sweep it around the mids (between 300-1000hz) until you find the same frequencies he's cutting. it'll help give that punch without mid range mud.
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thank you man!!! damn thats a lot of work for "just" a bassline...hehehe
i will try your tips with an extra bass sound and envelope settings etc.
About the gate thing... its like trying to recreate sidechaining (kick-bass). You can do this pump effekt with volume automation, or lfo, or even filter- and/or amp envelope, but in my opinion nothing sounds as good as with a compressor If somenone comes with some trick, please post it here please
The synth most probably used for the bass could be NI massive. Massive has shaped the sound of dubstep and grime over last few years. The gatey effect could be dimension expander (massive insert fx)Could well be sidechained as well with lots of glide and lfo modulation.
Have a look on youtube or DL a demo of massive see if it can get close to the sounds you posted
hey thanx!!! i ve seen some youtube tutorials about massive and the lfo wobble "dubstep" bass und just had the idea to try some other curves for the lfo modulation... sound better this way!!! closer but not already there
OK after some hours of tweaking and searching and tweaking etc, i think that the synth its not that important for this technique..the best solution i found so far is to sidechain the bass also with a gate which is triggered by some drumsounds for example. only this brings this kind of attack to the sound... just try to find what sounds fits the best as trigger-signal and tweak the gate parameters so that you can hear the effekt...
just as info for the people that may wanna do something like this...
that said... i am still open for opinions or solutions about this technique..
and offcourse thankfull to the guys answering here cheers
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