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Help making 'end of world' sounding goa?

octium
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Oct 21, 2008 03:41:58
Sorry for all the threads...

I've read the basics on music theory, but I'm still having trouble creating melodies that sound good (I've made some that sound O.K)

I feel it's very hard for me to get the sounds in my heard transcribed to notes, but maybe that'll get easier with time.

But my question is: how do I go abour creating an 'end of world' feeling chord progression? What chords together can create this effect?

I was thinking of using the Aeolian (minor) mode, I've heard it's good for this. But I have no idea how to make that type of melody..


Thanks for all your help.
Mesq
Reality Pixie

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Posted : Oct 21, 2008 07:39
http://forum.isratrance.com/mother-of-stupid-production-questions-thread/
Tribute
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Posted : Oct 21, 2008 09:10
hahahaha im sorry, you made my day
please give me an example of end of world goa never heard that shit!!! must be killlargh
Alex - Aural Invasion
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Posted : Oct 21, 2008 15:23
Im sure he means a sad chord progression.

something like in this old track maybe ?






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bukboy
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Posted : Oct 21, 2008 21:01
I think it would be more about how u perceive the end of the world would happen.

would it be chaotic or calm?
(chaotic - (look up mars - holst) multi tonality, repetitive driving rhythms, competing leads, lots of tritones and chromatic notes. Lots of contrasts. Lots of disturbing off-tuned synths.
calm - monotonal, slow calming rhythms, predictable melodies that are very shmalzy and cheesy(i.e. aeolian). shallow contrasts.)

would it be slow or fast? would it be constant or dynamic? would it be a story?
Write down a story ( in a way that is expressible in music ) and realise all the pieces bit by bit.
The story would give the piece depth, a good execution would give you prestige.
OpenSourceCode
Datavore

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Posted : Oct 22, 2008 00:23
for christ's sake. Just use a bunch of diminished chords
octium
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Posted : Oct 22, 2008 00:51
Quote:

On 2008-10-21 15:23, Alex - Aural Invasion wrote:
Im sure he means a sad chord progression.

something like in this old track maybe ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTxUwDGRHqw



I realized it was a stupid question, but I wanted to know the answer.

Ya, especially at 4:30 in that track.

And by when I mean end of world I mean sad, dark, epic (but not really happy) sounding.

Kind of like this too: MWNN - Teleport




assaf
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Posted : Oct 22, 2008 02:46
mesq you killed me, sorry octium
by the way check out the old track by itzik levy "witchcraft - end of the world"!! or maybe its from green house effect, but it might have the feelings you got...
octium
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Posted : Oct 22, 2008 04:30
I'll look at that track and experiment with a bunch of diminished chords.

I found a track that has the feeling I was thinking of:
http://www.imeem.com/people/SWg4eM6/music/bJ1FaOQN/psytrance_psychedelic_ambient_goa_trance_music_2008/

(bonus points to who can tell me the name and artist)
MadScientist
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Posted : Oct 22, 2008 08:04
its gms (like you can see on that page in big letters ), the ring.

funny how views on certain feelings can differ           https://soundcloud.com/hazak

"Have you ever had that feeling where you're not sure if you're awake or still dreaming?"
"Hmm, yeah... All the time, man - it's called mescaline. The only way to fly!"
Chemogen
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Posted : Oct 22, 2008 19:31
You'd probably use Absynth
Mesq
Reality Pixie

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Posted : Oct 25, 2008 02:10
hehe sorry for being a smart ass I can't help myself sometimes... part of the aussie culture is "taking the piss"

The end of the world is such an abstract and subjective experience it would be so many things for so many people and its definitely a sound id be interested in creating in my music too... FOr me the end of the world will probably sound like some full spectrum oscillating drone sorta like on a high dose of DMT
Nectarios
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Posted : Oct 25, 2008 02:25
Quote:

On 2008-10-22 04:30, octium wrote:
I'll look at that track and experiment with a bunch of diminished chords.

I found a track that has the feeling I was thinking of:
http://www.imeem.com/people/SWg4eM6/music/bJ1FaOQN/psytrance_psychedelic_ambient_goa_trance_music_2008/

(bonus points to who can tell me the name and artist)



Listening to that tune made me feel like the end of the world should come a.s.a.p.
          
http://soundcloud.com/martianarts
stuartn15ted

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Posted : Oct 25, 2008 02:42
I'm new here so hello everyone! Great forum btw!

I'm pretty new to making psy trance but i've been playing guitar for quite a while and i always had trouble turning my ideas into music. But its something that you can learn to do with time and practice.

What you need to be able to do is recognise the the intervals that you are 'hearing' in your head. If you can do that, then you can get you ideas into music!

This website helped me a lot. There's a video on there that explains how to use it.

http://www.trainear.com/

Hope this helps
octium
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Posted : Oct 25, 2008 04:50
Haha, thanks guys!
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