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Help building Q6600 system

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Getafix

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Posted : Sep 6, 2007 11:53
Hi guys,

I'm building a desktop pc for myself & so far i've decided on the following specs:

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.40 GHz
Intel DP35DPM
Seagate 250GB 7200 rpm HDD
Kingston 2 GB DDR 2 667 MHz RAM
Asus 450W PSU

Do these specs look alright to you? I can't seem to make my mind up about the motherboard. Ideally i'd want a board that has a built in graphics card that supports dual displays.

I decided to go for this motherboard so that i can upgrade to the new processors whenever they come out.

I would appreciate any pointers on the specs. Thanks.
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Seppa


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Posted : Sep 6, 2007 13:07
Did you see the new price of the quads?
Might be worse to have a look at them they cost nothing.

Also you might want to go for 500W for piece of mind in the future.
orange
Fat Data

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Posted : Sep 6, 2007 13:23
choose a gigabyte motherboard better.

onboard graphics card its a bad solution.a dedicated graphics card for an audio pc will be cheap and silent and will not use ur system ram that causes glitches and a decrease on the overall performance.

also a good 500w silent and modular psu will give u clean and stable power to ur system with the use of the needed only cables only that will allow a better air flow in the box.


orange           http://www.landmark-recordings.com/
http://soundcloud.com/kymamusic
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Getafix

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Posted : Sep 6, 2007 14:42
Thanks for the replies guys. Which one's of these PSU's would you recommend:

Machron 500W
Cooler Master 550W
ASUS 550W

I guess i will opt for a dedicated graphics card then. Only problem is there are so many to choose from & i am a bit clueless.

I won't be playing any games so all i want is a stable graphics card that will allow me to run dual monitors.

A few of the graphics cards that are in my budget are:

XFX FX5200 (128mb)
Sapphire 9250 (128mb)
ASUS 6200TC
GEforce 7100GS           http://www.soundcloud.com/getafixmusic
orange
Fat Data

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Posted : Sep 6, 2007 15:15
http://www.antec.com/ec/productDetails.php?ProdID=05500

http://www.antec.com/ec/productDetails.php?ProdID=05505

ive got that one... http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/reviews/cases/Hiper_TypeR_580W_7.html

for a gpu i prefer silent ones...
ive got that one... http://www.it247.com/Product/4804-PVT73EUDJ3/XFX_Geforce_7300GT_graphics_adapter_GF_7300_GT_256_MB.htm

but ill suggest a newer with dx10 support like this... http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10005880

the ones u mention are very weak and old models.


orange           http://www.landmark-recordings.com/
http://soundcloud.com/kymamusic
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Getafix

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Posted : Sep 6, 2007 17:49
Thanks for the advice Atropa.

Which graphic card would you recommend between these (all Inno3d 256MB):
7300GT
7600GS
8500GT

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orange
Fat Data

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Posted : Sep 6, 2007 18:36
7600GS but if u want dx1o support go for the 8500gt



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http://soundcloud.com/kymamusic
Dharma Lab


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Posted : Sep 6, 2007 20:57
Waiting on parts for my new Q6600 system. I can let you know how things go with them once they all arrive & are assembled.

I agree about the onboard video & increasing the power.

Thanks for the heads up on the xfx 7300 GT, was looking for a silent one with dual dvi output, but was unable to find one.           Keep The Faith,
Christian K.
subconsciousmind
SCM

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Posted : Sep 6, 2007 21:20
I can highly recommend this motherboard even though the chipset is not the newest.
Its proven absolutely stable with me and many users in the cubase forum:
D975XBX2KR (Bad Axe 2) with intel P975

I changed to it after having ongoing problems with a Asus deluxe series motherboard and heavy USB and pci(x) slot load.

When it comes to PSU:
http://www.digitec.ch/ProdukteDetails2.aspx?Reiter=Details&Artikel=120008
these have 120mm fans and are relatively silent. digitec is extremely cheap anyway by the way.

as for the grafic I wouldn't care.. 8500GT and 7600Gs cost almost the same anyway. just without fan, thats all...




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Trip-
IsraTrance Team

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Posted : Sep 7, 2007 20:37
Your initial setup looks great.

About the psu, a larger fan will make it a quieter operation - and that's what you really want from the psu. 450W is more than enough. To protect your electronic devices, do use a UPS between the psu and the electric socket.

As others have suggested, a silent (fanless) display card is the way to go.           Crackling universes dive into their own neverending crackle...
AgalactiA
Kadavr


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Posted : Sep 7, 2007 21:10
well for psu I would recomend be quiet dark power pro, if you can get it from europe. otherwise the corsair hx series is powerfull and very quiet, you should check out http://www.silentpcreview.com/ if you're looking for quieter components.
Dharma Lab


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Posted : Sep 7, 2007 21:58
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On 2007-09-07 20:37, Trip- wrote:
About the psu, a larger fan will make it a quieter operation - and that's what you really want from the psu. 450W is more than enough.



I disagree, but psu's are generally something that many people cheap out on.

Cheap psu's will cost you more in the long run on electricity. You have to pay attention to it's efficiency ratings at various temperatures. A $200 psu with 83% efficiency will completely pay for itself in 2-3 years versus a psu with 75% efficiency (given the machine is on 24 x 7).

Running your psu at high load also tends to reduce efficiency, as well as generate more heat, and a greater likelyhood of problems. Not all psu problems are 'it doesn't power on' type problems. It can cause issues with cpu, memory, drives, graphics cards. These types of things very often look like both hardware & software problem.

Sure, we'd all like to have top of the line parts, but the psu gets overlooked so easily compared to mobo, cpu, & memory. Not trying to preach here, just point out something that is often overlooked.
          Keep The Faith,
Christian K.
Trip-
IsraTrance Team

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Posted : Sep 7, 2007 22:06
generally it is overlooked.
But the Asus he has chosen is a perfectly OK psu - at this level, the only downside to a PSU would be its noise level.           Crackling universes dive into their own neverending crackle...
AgalactiA
orange
Fat Data

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Posted : Sep 7, 2007 22:34
the asus isnt a very good psu.

it has a bad efficiency rating and its noisy.

the smart fun that utilizes so it can run slow and quiet indeed works great when idle or light power demands but its very noisy when operating in high cpu usage that means higher power demands (music that is)
as for power demands in the pc world it known that o good and with large power capacity psu will work easier and better with less heat and power consumption.

and also keeps ur pc safer from strange electricity anomalies and can provide a better quality power when combined with a ups.


orange           http://www.landmark-recordings.com/
http://soundcloud.com/kymamusic
Seppa


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Posted : Sep 8, 2007 18:57
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About the psu, a larger fan will make it a quieter operation - and that's what you really want from the psu. 450W is more than enough. To protect your electronic devices, do use a UPS between the psu and the electric socket.

As others have suggested, a silent (fanless) display card is the way to go.




Quote:
But the Asus he has chosen is a perfectly OK psu - at this level, the only downside to a PSU would be its noise level.



I wouldn't expect this sort of advice from an isratrance team member........
This forum is not moving ahead.... Its been a while since I feel this. How can we expect more from users a this point....



To go back on track, one of the 3 best psus there is out there,is the corsair hx 520 the yellow one. its is one of the most silent .... also do not trust the manufacturer noise ratio, its always a lie.... go instead check the roundups and find out why some are good others are not.... the corsair has definitely the best transformer there is so go price wise its not too expensive for what you get.

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