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johnny 5
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Posted : Sep 2, 2004 23:30
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hi guys
i read some article about home studio's and pc, over there it was writen that "for better results use 2 hard disk, 1 for software and one for projects,samples,etc...
my question is , since i cant efford 2 Hd's it splitting my single HD in2 (c: / d:) will help in anyway to get results as 2 HD's
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Meta
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Posted : Sep 2, 2004 23:48
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No, definately not.
Partitioning (Splitting) your hard drive might actually make music stuff go slower, the hard drive arm will have to travel a greater distance back and forth over the disc surface area to read both partitions.
The more things your hard drive has to read simultaneously, the slower it goes. So if you have 2 hard drives, #1 has your System/OS/Music programs while #2 is free to read your actual song loops/data files alone.
Note: this sort of split will only be effective if you store your song files and ALL your loops/sound effects etc. properly- I've seen people with a good 2 HD setup get forgetful & save new drumloops etc. on their desktop and suddenly their system performance drops when they use the new stuff.
Don't worry too much about doing this unless you are getting a specific "Disk Too Slow" type error. This won't really help VST/CPU performance. Many programs will have a separate CPU/Disk performance bar to let you know what's going on.
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orange
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Posted : Sep 2, 2004 23:51
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Posted : Sep 3, 2004 13:49
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On 2004-09-02 23:48, Aeon wrote:
No, definately not.
Partitioning (Splitting) your hard drive might actually make music stuff go slower, the hard drive arm will have to travel a greater distance back and forth over the disc surface area to read both partitions.
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sorry but not true,
to use 2 hd's you 1st must have both the same hd's or at least with the same speed and with seperate cables connected- primary ide and secondary ide- well if you're using sata technology you would need them both sata to reveal this high speed,
when separating 2 partitions it will not take more time to access because of the data stay on the same cable(just keep it defragmented)- while the program ask for some data from the 2nd partition it will
anyway already on the hard drive- even though the commands goes through the memory/cpu,
well if you can effort 2 hd's so this post is worthless- but if you have let's say 60gb hd- i suggest you to put 20gb as your C drive with the OS and all the softs, it's better not to allocate too big part for your system drive- bear in mind you will need to defragment it frequently- rather not make it too small- for 2 reasons, the programs you're installing and for the free space strategy- if you're runing on a small ammount of free space on your system drive- this will slows your all system.
for your D drive(your data drive) just leave the rest of it,
if you already installed the OS and still want to make changes to your partition(s)
just get "Partition Magic" http://www.partitionmagic.com just as it's name it doing magics, just use it CAREFULLY
for your question - it will make a difference and it's better to do so
peace all,
Space is the place
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johnny 5
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Posted : Sep 3, 2004 15:55
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now im confussed... |
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Eduardo
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Posted : Sep 3, 2004 16:25
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Nah man... dont be confused...
Its ok to have 1 hds partitioned in 2.
Its also cool like when u have a problem with any part of the hardware of your computer and u need to format u dont need to make 1000 backup cds of everything... u just put your projects and most important stuff in the other HD and format only one of them...
At least i had this problem once and the stupid guy that was fixing my machine deleted all my projects (what a shame, lost 1 year of work and research).
But the ideal would be to buy and USB 120/80 MB hard drive man... its the best u take anywhere u need.
But to make music i would recomend u to have everything that u are using in the track in the same HD of the sequencer and project.
Besides what the other ppl told already thats my 2 cents...
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Meta
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Posted : Sep 3, 2004 23:32
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Hmm, still got to disagree with you guys. If you don't believe me:
(From Electronic Musician mag)
"For the best performance, install your audio drive on a separate IDE bus from the CD-ROM and system drive. Also, keep in mind that you will not achieve the benefits of a second drive by simply creating a separate audio partition on the system drive. If anything, that will likely degrade performance because the drive's stylus works even harder to seek application data from one partition and stream audio from another."
http://emusician.com/mag/desktop/emusic_xp_audio/index.html
I wouldn't press the issue, but I've personally seen a variety of "Drive Too Slow" error problems solved with moving stuff to a physically separate drive where partitioning + defragging didn't help.
But Eduardo makes a good point, instead of spending money on another internal IDE drive getting an external USB is the way to go. Not only is it portable to work on tracks here and there with others, but if you had a partitioned single drive that crashed, you would still lose both partitions... Partition Magic is indeed an awesome program if you have a failed boot sector, but can't help in the case of certain physical defects/failures.
Anyway Johhny, like I said in the first post, you probably won't come across problems in either configuration unless you have a lot of long audio tracks. Most people only use small clips + drumloops, most disk-speed issues I've seen arise are when people are doing remixes or working with lots of long (1 minute +) tracks simultaneously. Don't worry too much about any of this unless "Disk Too Slow" type errors become a regular issue with your tracks.
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Sep 4, 2004 06:20
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johnny 5
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Posted : Sep 4, 2004 12:33
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thanx guys.
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High Pulse
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Posted : Sep 6, 2004 04:47
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i agree with aeon ... use one disck to windows run without stress .. then another disck 120 gigs for ex .. to instal logic .. and put your samples on it and keep your work all there .. u will see the results .. i was problems before .. since i update .. my computer seems to be .. 10 times faster .. no latençia .. no hanging up .. eheh much bether
so try another way .. since u can afford 2 hdd's ? why because u have laptop ??? .. if u have laptop .. u can buy the external hardisk via firewire .. they are quiet cool and good and they give u full power :=) my friend nexus have one .. and work with im .. and is happy :=)
so try it
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johnny 5
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Posted : Sep 6, 2004 10:53
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i dont know if i can efford 2 HD's yet, im not checking prices all over and looking for the best deal, anyone know any cheap and reliable pc store in center area btw?
aeon: u said '#1 has your System/OS/Music programs while #2 is free to read your actual song loops", where do i install VSTi on master or slave HD?? |
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Meta
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Posted : Sep 6, 2004 11:38
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Keep those VST on your system drive in the usual VST folder, that's fine. Those VST files aren't audio files, they are part of the program.
Since you brought it up, to be clear about those drives and the master/slave settings:
Both hard drives need to be in the "Master" position on their own IDE slot- you have 2 IDE slots on your motherboard. Usually in small letters on the motherboard it has "Primary" next to one and "Secondary" next to the other.
So to sum up, on one cable you have your System/OS hard drive on the Master setting with a CD-Rom on the Slave setting. When you boot up your computer, the first screen will show the System hard drive as "primary master" and the CD drive as the slave.
Then on the second cable going into the other IDE slot, you have your Audio/Samples Hard drive as the Master for that channel. So then your new Audio hard drive will show up as "Secondary Master" in that bootup screen.
Anyway man, if you can't afford another HD yet don't worry about it. It's only worth spending more money for this setup if you start to get lots of "Disk Slow" errors. But I know it is tempting to get more HD space to have all those sample CDs stored right on your computer...
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