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Have U Ever Felt This ??

WAVELOGIX
Wavelogix

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Posted : Jun 23, 2004 00:10
hey guys , wassup ?

ok frnds ,

while working on my leads , and percussion .. i all the time feel , tht they simply dont sound FAT , inspite of all the compression , eq , reverb and processing i do to them ... as compared to released tracks ..

for example of i am working on a melody line , using 1 instance of albino .. using all 4 osc. @ the same time .. the resulting sound still dosent sound FAT , THICK and SOLID ...

same is with the percusssion and groove of the trk [ chh , ohh, perc.loops , shakers ] ..

have u guys ever felt this ???

wat do u ppl do to make them soud fat and fill up the entire space ??

pls help me on this guys ... i hope u got me right

bye and tc ...boom !           http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTPJuMSwzUQ
bandarlog
Bandarlog

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Posted : Jun 23, 2004 00:31
I've noticed with my own music that if I'm pleased with a sound and I find it fat (in the end, meaning not only on the spot but also the day after), that there are at least 8 different (vst) effects at once at work on that sound alone.

Unison detune makes it fatter, depends on what style you're aiming offcourse. Also try other vsti's like pro53, vanguard, fm7, sw protrance,...

Also make sure it's dynamic: lfo's on resonance, cutoff, pan, change change change...

my 2cents

kukan-dub-lagan/ItaiTaiko
kukan-dub-lagan/ItaiTaiko

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Posted : Jun 23, 2004 00:33
you need to catch it in the end-when you make the sound to all.in the start it allways like that--only if you work from the start on the hz. also it will be different--eq and stuff like that.try to put in send channel compressor for make the sound more fat.
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Mike A
Subra

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Posted : Jun 23, 2004 01:58
Eq out the not needed frequencies and give them a boost in volume.
You don't need all 4 osc in the albino, 2 will suffice.
Try making the entire thing an octave lower, or longer notes.
Add delay, reverb, automations, etc.

Kukan - what's the point in putting a compressor as a send effect?
WAVELOGIX
Wavelogix

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Posted : Jun 23, 2004 07:37
mike , when u say try making the entire thing an octave lower ... u mean to say , it will natirally sound fat , and then i can se subtractive eq and cut out the unwanted freqs . the make it sounds the way i want ??

but , in some cases , depending on the synth patch , making the melody in a lower octave , many also result in sound change .. !

boom !
Input
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Jun 23, 2004 08:46
How's your kick and bass?? if you want your leads to sound fat it should sit on a good kick-bass- did you cut too much in the low frequencys from the leads?

put your lead in solo with your bass line and the kick and fill the empty spaces if there's such.
boost the low-mid in the leads if needed and check the volumes of course, compression is not a must in this case but it might be help- in short, eq right the 3 elements, don't cut too much from the low in the leads unless your kick and bass can fill up this space.

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kukan-dub-lagan/ItaiTaiko
kukan-dub-lagan/ItaiTaiko

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Posted : Jun 23, 2004 11:16
Quote:


Kukan - what's the point in putting a compressor as a send effect?



try to put the L2 or other compressor that you like and than you will see that your sound is more fat.in the right way it is allways work.sound man allways wish that they will have compressor for each channel in pa out side...           Check out my music page - free music , new style and more :)
billy ambulance
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Posted : Jun 23, 2004 12:38
Quote:

On 2004-06-23 01:58, Mike A wrote:
Try making the entire thing an octave lower, or longer notes.
Add delay, reverb, automations, etc.


I recomend to double the lead to 2 octaves.
fill in notes in the lower octave but leave the line as it is.
Mike A
Subra

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Posted : Jun 23, 2004 13:59
Billy - that can do the trick too
pharmakon


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Posted : Jun 25, 2004 21:03
In addition to the stuff already mentioned, try using Albino's chorus effect (or any chorus vst) to add some life and substance to the lead
GEM_37
Cold Project

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Posted : Jun 27, 2004 01:00
dude like i say to friends of mine .... other peoples sandwiches..... someone elses sarmies always taste better then your own

Why not post it for us to have a listen? im sure is sounds fatter then what u think
WAVELOGIX
Wavelogix

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Posted : Jun 27, 2004 08:33
but gem-37, its not upto the the level of what i hear on released cds ...

iis it so , bcoz they are mastered and all the mixing errors have already been rectified ... really dunno

how ever thanks for all these suggestion and i have been realy been working over the past few days and have found out some new tricks and tips tht have really taken my sound to the next level ....

just hope tht it keeps getting better

bye and take care ... !
WAVELOGIX
Wavelogix

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Posted : Jun 27, 2004 08:42
P4 2.8ghz , 1 gb ram ..
Behringer Truth 2 way Active monitors
M-Audio 2496 Soundcard

thts my setup with a midi controller ...
so i dont think there is nuthin wrong with the setup ... only some thing i dont know

boom shankar !
WAVELOGIX
Wavelogix

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Posted : Jun 28, 2004 07:32
and here is the link to the trk guys ...

http://www.soundclick.com/util/Streamm3u.m3u?ID=1297136&q=Hi

http://www.soundclick.com/util/Streamm3u.m3u?ID=1297136&q=lo


pls lissen to it and temme how FAt the sound really is

PLUR ... BOOM !
WAVELOGIX
Wavelogix

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Posted : Jul 3, 2004 19:18
cmon guys ... now nobody wanna lissen ???
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