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Has anyone done this?

MARGHERITA
Master Margherita

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Posted : Apr 6, 2010 22:04
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On 2010-04-06 16:39, Yidam wrote:

Have heard of this concept in classical music. There are some pieces that can be read by players sitting on opposite sides of the same table which are played together to create the composition. Think it's known as harmonic inversion.

An interesting read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serialism



the melodies are reversed but not the sounds,,
this is a big diference ...

in classic music is a very common technique,,

for translate this in electronic music,
you dont reverse the audio, but your reverse only the midi before render in audio,,


5meohd

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Posted : Apr 6, 2010 22:57
I think a track on Kilowatts "undercurrents" was 100% reversed.

I don't actually know.. but when I went to warp it in ableton it sure looked and sounded if that was the case.
Yidam
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Posted : Apr 6, 2010 23:20
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On 2010-04-06 22:04, MARGHERITA wrote:
Quote:

On 2010-04-06 16:39, Yidam wrote:

Have heard of this concept in classical music. There are some pieces that can be read by players sitting on opposite sides of the same table which are played together to create the composition. Think it's known as harmonic inversion.

An interesting read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serialism



the melodies are reversed but not the sounds,,
this is a big diference ...

in classic music is a very common technique,,

for translate this in electronic music,
you dont reverse the audio, but your reverse only the midi before render in audio,,




Yes of course way harder concept for the recorder generation. Wonder what Mozart would do with all the technology we have in hand now.

Lovely ambient music btw and a funny observation by dubsahara ... somehow takes me back to the golden era of namlook & fax records

PS... can anyone explain how to process reverse melodies in a live situation?

Ascension
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Posted : Apr 6, 2010 23:20
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On 2010-04-06 22:57, 5meohd wrote:
I think a track on Kilowatts "undercurrents" was 100% reversed.

I don't actually know.. but when I went to warp it in ableton it sure looked and sounded if that was the case.



Hmmm, I'll have to ask him about that at Sacred Earth.           http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
www.chilluminati.org - Midwest based psytrance group
Yidam
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Posted : Apr 6, 2010 23:26
oop found some:

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/988.html
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1609.html
MARGHERITA
Master Margherita

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Posted : Apr 6, 2010 23:29
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can anyone explain how to process reverse melodies in a live situation?



you could use a reverse delay with zero feedback, no dry signal
but the speed need to be set ,

some delay offer a real reverse function,,
like this pedal
http://cachepe.samedaymusic.com/media/quality,85/brand,sameday/DL4_300_RGB-5bc0573077d640ad80004b200306b2c7.jpg

btw i'm looking for this in the virtual world,
never found 1 for now,
any tips ?

cheers           http://mastermargherita.com
MARGHERITA
Master Margherita

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Posted : Apr 6, 2010 23:31
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On 2010-04-06 23:26, Yidam wrote:
oop found some:

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/988.html
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1609.html



you fast
but not wokring on lates mac OS
Yidam
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Posted : Apr 6, 2010 23:36
Juuuuust played around with the Reversinator and it works like a charm! Free VST ... check it out:

http://www.niallmoody.com/ndcplugs/reversinator.htm
Yidam
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Posted : Apr 6, 2010 23:46
ah that sucks.
there is another one that might work for you but it's costs some moolah

http://www.sfxmachine.com/backwards_machine/index.html


MARGHERITA
Master Margherita

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Posted : Apr 7, 2010 00:05
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On 2010-04-06 23:46, Yidam wrote:
ah that sucks.
there is another one that might work for you but it's costs some moolah

http://www.sfxmachine.com/backwards_machine/index.html



this is wokring , but the feedback not cool,
if you whant more than one time repeat, you got backward forward,,

many reverse delays are like this,,,

only Line 6 do the real reverse + feedbacks , allways in reverse,
i never found this kind of reverse delay in any other pedals or plugs,,,


but definitively this "Backward Machine" works very nice, for reverse 1 time the "melody/pattern"


          http://mastermargherita.com
Dennis the menace
DevilsDennis Sparris McHilton

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Posted : Apr 8, 2010 09:33
Half of the Pink Bunny track on wasted brigade is partly reversed if im not mistaken.
Xolvexs
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Posted : Apr 8, 2010 11:16
you mean something like Backmasking           When death comes to your doorstep, make sure you are alive
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