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Harmonize the percussion ?

Psyahuasca


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Posted : Jun 11, 2010 00:42:58
Is it necessary for a good sound that the frequencies of percussion are in harmony with the bass/synths etc.?
Or should the HiHats be clean from melodic frequencies?
Every time I "harmonize" the percs, the beat is more interesting.
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willsanquil
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Posted : Jun 11, 2010 02:24
I'd refer back to the One Rule of Psy:

if it sounds good, it is good - seems like you tried it and it sounded good, so keep on doin it!
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Jun 11, 2010 03:34
Well, in the real world you don't have this opportunity most of the time. Humanity survived for thousands of years without tuning its percussion instruments. So, obviously, you don't have to do it. But then again - if it's an easy thing to do and it make your track sound better, why not?
dj chichke
Chichke

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Posted : Jun 11, 2010 03:44
i don't believe in it. some people will argue with me about it
Domi
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Posted : Jun 11, 2010 09:53
it´s great if u can use Harmonize it....there are sample cds with nothes sometimez           https://soundcloud.com/twonzero-progressive/twonezero-alienpast-soon-on
bukboy
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Posted : Jun 11, 2010 10:03
you can use harmonized percs, such as snares etc as layers to build up grooves. Almost using them like instruments. I hear plenty songs like that.

Your bass and kick have to be at least reasonably tuned to get the rolling bass line thing going anyway.
daark
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Posted : Jun 11, 2010 10:05
yeah u should, humanity always tuned theyre drums.

very important for the drums to have their own space in the spectrum or to be in harmony.
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Jun 11, 2010 10:13
The best tuning are your ears imo.All other is waste of time/limit of open flowing creativity process.
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Psyahuasca


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Posted : Jun 11, 2010 15:46
@wilsanquil :"I'd refer back to the One Rule of Psy:
if it sounds good, it is good - seems like you tried it and it sounded good, so keep on doin it!"

Yes, different situations require different methods of design the sound.

thanks a lot for your opinions!

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aciduss
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Posted : Jun 11, 2010 17:19
Do you guys tune open hats to snare?
daark
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Posted : Jun 11, 2010 20:54
i would do it and closed ones too but generaly...
not to snare.. maybe to kick and bass
i usualy tune to get more presence
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Freeflow
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Posted : Jun 11, 2010 22:16
I try to pick the right drums sounds and if needed pitch them up or down so they blend better...
I dont use a tuner,

though sometimes i use a tuner for my darbuka.

i agree with using your ears method, having a fixed idea to tune someting to some particular note does not always mean it will sound best that way.

btw good fun, automate the pitch for a climax, pitch the hihats or openhat or what ever up a little.. can make some good rush...
Shiranui
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Posted : Jun 14, 2010 22:58
Maybe a tiny bit of comb filter on particularly atonal sounds...
daark
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Posted : Jun 16, 2010 11:35
Quote:

On 2010-06-14 22:58, Shiranui wrote:
Maybe a tiny bit of comb filter on particularly atonal sounds...

notch filter           http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers
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