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e-motion
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Posted : Apr 12, 2007 23:41
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On 2007-04-06 20:05, Seppa wrote:
now what is that cds do that a programs cant do ????
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the sound of two perfect synced cdjs in a mixer will always be better than the one you can get from traktor (you can always feel a track coming in traktor). altough i still need to confirm this with a decent sound card.
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soulfood
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Posted : Apr 13, 2007 05:08
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On 2007-04-12 09:43, bukboy wrote:
soulfood - Well I reckon maturity and character is all about making your choice and sticking with it, not choosing everything and being a general diletante. U do actually have to make choices in life.
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Indeed choices are important and should be stuck by as you have demonstrated by choosing to critisize every post I make on this here forum. However.. you're a bit of a cunt, to say the least  . What exactly do you think I am? You shouldn't really judge people so strongly unless you actually know them. Then again it is easy to belittle anonymous victims and I imagine it can be very thereputic to the confused mind of one who is lacking his own grip.
There's things you can do with every audio playback media that you can't do with another, end of story. If you need all these things then master it all. If you are quite happy with mixing with a laptop then do it. It sounds as good as the media you load into it. I find for myself when I use software to mix I try to make it too much about me and mess about too much so my personal choice is cd's as it puts me more into the mind of the dancefloor rather than that of an engineer. I'll save that space for my production.
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bukboy
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Posted : Apr 13, 2007 08:54
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Well if Im a cunt then ur a very self important one.
please HAVE A NICE DAY!!!
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bukboy
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Posted : Apr 13, 2007 11:33
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soulfood - I think your advice is flaky and directionless. in summary.
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mk47
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Posted : Apr 13, 2007 13:58
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lol
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soulfood
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Posted : Apr 13, 2007 18:29
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Only because you don't have the smarts for it 
You love me really
I love how it took you a couple of hours to come up with that second post. Mate, you are so funny.
I think the best part of all this is by the time I'm your age "Mr Directionless" here has going to have acomplished quite a fair bit with his life.
And I'll still be mixing with CD's |
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Mike A
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Posted : Apr 13, 2007 18:31
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On 2007-04-12 17:02, YANTRA wrote:
You dont need to find keys for mixing tracks. Most of good djs dont waste their time trying to find the key that the track was written.
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I don't agree with you. I mix harmonically and it sounds so sweet. DJs have no idea what they are missing
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soulfood
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Posted : Apr 13, 2007 18:36
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On 2007-04-12 17:02, YANTRA wrote:
You dont need to find keys for mixing tracks. Most of good djs dont waste their time trying to find the key that the track was written.
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I don't agree with you. I mix harmonically and it sounds so sweet. DJs have no idea what they are missing
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Too true! Take the emotional power of a key change and put it in a mix. Then mix 2 clashing records.
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xrust
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Posted : Apr 13, 2007 18:37
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On 2007-04-12 17:02, YANTRA wrote:
You dont need to find keys for mixing tracks. Most of good djs dont waste their time trying to find the key that the track was written.
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I don't agree with you. I mix harmonically and it sounds so sweet. DJs have no idea what they are missing
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absolutely agree with mike A...sounds very sweet,plus it gines more perspective in the mix 
just dont over do it(playing in the same key more than half an hour may be a little bit tiring ...
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bukboy
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Posted : Apr 13, 2007 19:44
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soulfood - unlike u I have a job. Sorry about the delay.
From all your posts all i see is u pretending to know everything and saying absolutely nothing new. Wheres a smartass comment that actually is smartass? did u actually study anything besides bullshit and how to be pretentious?
Unfortunately I see right through it.Good luck with the imaginary fame and fortune and amazing accomplishments. Far as I can see it you're nothing more than a loser with an inflated ego. |
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soulfood
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Posted : Apr 14, 2007 02:33
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I think we're a bit off topic. This was about mixing harmonically. So what do you know dj superstar?
Mixing harmonically isn't just about mixing in one key as another method of ensuring nice sounding mixes. It's about utilizing the power of harmony and melody through a mix.
Think of all those folky acoustic guitar tracks where as the intro drops down to the relative minor as the verse comes in, there's a deepening air of seriousness. It's great to have that sound going that tells people you're not just mixing into another track but deliberately putting 2 together in a musical way which ellaborates further on that moment, rather than waiting for a suitable build of energy from the next track.
I think sasha's involver album is a great example of what can be accomplished using these methods.
It's just like a jazz singer improvising through chord changes with such a swift, unshakeable feel.
I'd also like to add that choosing which key to change to or whether to change at all should be thought of in the same way as whether to cut or blend into another track. It's just another tool that can be used by those who know it and I think if you are serious about DJing it's better to have the skills and not need them, than to need the skills and not have them.
But that's just like... my opinion man.
And what do I know.. I don't even have a job,
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bukboy
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Posted : Apr 14, 2007 11:08
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Christ I didnt realise u were a kid. Sorry. Wish u didnt respond to my statements with insults, I was not being personal until you began throwing insults.
My only prob is that ur philosophy seems to be that of a generalist. generalism is the same as jack of all trades master of none. Choose an approach and call it your own instead of saying that its best to do everything and agree with what every1 does. I have no problem with people making their own choices I just have a problem with people broadcasting bullshit.
I couldnt care less what people think about me, I just want good music being made out there somewhere. |
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soulfood
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Posted : Apr 14, 2007 17:10
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You probably should just ignore my posts in future rather than clogging up threads with bad criticism, because some people do find them useful.
As for the fame thing, pardon me for being an optimistic. As sir Colin of OOOD says the only sure way to fail in the music industry is give up. And as I'm still a kid I have plenty of time to learn.
Oh and don't worry. I AM making good music |
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : Apr 14, 2007 20:25
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As from my musicians and listener perspective. I'm not a DJ.
I really wouldn't like if a DJ would change the pitch of my song.
I choose a tempo and a key as I want it. I can bear 1 BPM +/- but not more. Everything beyond that changes my songs so much that I don't like them anymore. From my perspective.
The transpose (without tempo change) functions kill the quality when used on a whole mix.
Just focus on music, not on mix technique. The art of DJing is to create a trip for the listener, and not his mixtechnique.
I rather have somebody who just mixes pads, no beat on beat, but compiles the music with heart and soul, instead a DJ who chooses the songs because they are "cool" to mix into eachother.
As if it was all about the mix. DJ tend to think that and forget the music.
As a listener I really do not care where the music comes from as long as it sounds good.
What is the Job of a DJ?
To make the dancers happy, but at the same time guide them somewhere, isn't it?
So what ever you do, just do your job.
Vinyl, CDs, Traktor, what ever, that all among DJs, a listner doesn't care about all that.
BTW. Traktor with 320kBps and good soundcard may even sound better, than a CDplayer with bad DA converters. Most of my music for you to download at:
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Ghost Host
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Posted : Apr 14, 2007 22:28
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..another endless CD vs Digital topic 
..i don't really get why people can't understend that we living on very fast technologies time and the media technologies u play from is progressing even faster than ectualy our time...and of cose qality of the sound u can deliver to the listener is much higher if u stay updated to the technologies and using this high tech tools.....or ok, i see..maybe this people just soooo DUMP that they can't learn use this digital tools and they always say that old school CD's is better, cose it's only thing they can use?!!
Grow up and do the math: 24Bit sound againts only 16Bit, and it's not only just press the button L000L....i wana see u doint that your self...to be able make pro mix with Traktor i bet u gona spend a lot of time to practice
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