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Dennis the menace
DevilsDennis Sparris McHilton
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Posted : Apr 5, 2007 19:23
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its possible to add vocoders, phazers, filters, lfo or whatever thru the mixer without a computer dude, and FYI, there are other cdj's than the 100's. 
Anyways.. I guess traktor is a great option for thoose who dont want to buy cd's or real equipment. Download and press play!! WOohoooo!!!!!!! im a DJ now, i know how to click a sync button and go for the autofade button in a good moment!!!! please vote for me in the next dj mag... Killah shit man!! really killah.. add some dblue glitch to your mix and you are really up to date of todays psytrance!
over and out
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Andreh
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Posted : Apr 5, 2007 20:59
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i agree with dennis.
Mix in cdj and similars is a thing. Mix with ableton or another programs is another thing...
You guys talk about effects and stuff using ableton..
Well, you guys should know a thing:
Yes, we(people from earth)have a very good HARDWARE stuff that do the same thing of our wonderfull vst´s. And i saw very good dj´s that use cdjs with a very cool mixer with lot of effects and they made everything live, without computers. With their hands.
So come on guys, you should know how to respect people opnion...
is all about respect.
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PoM
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Posted : Apr 5, 2007 21:25
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heard exactly the same with the mk2 and cdj some years ago. |
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Seppa
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Posted : Apr 6, 2007 20:05
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Well I come from the vinyl and I switched to cds cause some had fx integrated and i liked the idea, now there are programs that allow you to load vsts, do some audio editing sampling all in the same box......
now what is that cds do that a programs cant do ????
nothing ! thats the answer it just the logic evolution and like pom says, he heard the exact same thing with mks and cdjs.
so what kind of conclusion can we get out of this ?!
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Dennis the menace
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Posted : Apr 6, 2007 21:05
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On 2007-04-06 20:05, Seppa wrote:
so what kind of conclusion can we get out of this ?!
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Pavel
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Posted : Apr 8, 2007 10:05
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The dumb comments on this topic show clearly why this scene is so stuck.
Everyone in the world is doing something without me |
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soulfood
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Posted : Apr 10, 2007 05:25
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It's all good.
As long as music comes out and it's good it doesnt really matter. I certainly aint going to be looking at whoever's playing the music. I'd be far too busy staring at my hand 
Anyways the best way to have pitch perfect mixing is to be very musical in your head. Sure there's many tools out there to help and there's nothing wrong with leaning on technology. But in the event that someday you find yourself performing and that technology isn't available you're going to regret tuning up your skills for the best technology you have, that being yourself.
Learn how to train your ear and recognise intervals in pitch. You don't have to be classically perfect at doing this as mixing as much as just the bassline in key can be enough, certainly a start that's for sure.
As you do it more you just get better. |
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the daleks
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Posted : Apr 10, 2007 05:39
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God is most definitely a live act 
anyway, I do find this anti-software attitude annoying. 1) in regards to live acts, I have tried a number of methods, including remixing live with ableton, and running direct MIDI, but have found the most stable is to have stem mixes, i.e. bass, kick, melody etc, bussed out to 4 or 5 tracks on a mixer, and yes, you guessed, it simply press play! however, alot more preparation goes into putting it together than the technically un-initiated could probably fathom. Furthermore, after simply pressing the spacebar, there are a myriad of possibilities i.e. eq adjustments, faders, effects, not to mention live instruments.
I think the thing we really forget here is that the DJ also does press play at one point, so it would be cool if we could dispense with the this vs that attitudes an focus on the music.
any tools to get the job done, and whatever works best for you. what makes a good DJ is track selection, sense of timing, and knowledge of the equipment you are using, as well as a good persona that people like...
Peace!
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Dennis the menace
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Posted : Apr 10, 2007 14:47
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Saf
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It seems like software only takes away the necessity of beat matching, and opens up a lot more possibilities.
Anyway, in Ableton beat matching is replaced by either pre-warping your tracks, or being fast enough to warp them in real-time, which takes a little bit of skill as well, it's just different.
I can't use cdjs, but I can mix music in Ableton, do little remixes, grab or create an 8bar loop from a track, and put my own bassline on it with VSTs.. Add my own drum sequences, or maybe mix in loops, with effects vsts and shit on it..
There's other skills, you need for software mixing, good timing, matching phrases, hearing music by looking at the waveform.
I can't beat match on cdjs or vinyl, but if someone saw me playing music in ableton or tracktor and said I was lame, I'd tell them I flat out don't care what they think. |
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Mike A
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Posted : Apr 11, 2007 20:15
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piXan
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Posted : Apr 11, 2007 20:22
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soulfood
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Posted : Apr 11, 2007 21:52
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yes its pontless argument. Exactly the same issue people had with cdjs some years ago. Fact is technology sets the path and soon cds altoguether are becoming extinct. And im glad about it.
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Not yet I don't think. CDj's are always going to be more reliable to those who know how to use them and also a pleasure to use. You can't kill a tradition. I still use vinyl every now and then. Love the stuff.
But software is good too. |
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bukboy
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Posted : Apr 12, 2007 09:43
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soulfood - Well I reckon maturity and character is all about making your choice and sticking with it, not choosing everything and being a general diletante. U do actually have to make choices in life. |
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YANTRA
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Posted : Apr 12, 2007 17:02
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You dont need to find keys for mixing tracks. Most of good djs dont waste their time trying to find the key that the track was written. It's matter of feeling, technic and practiccing. Just get a pair of cdjs, a good mixer and good pot and start trainning mixing the tracks u hv in your case, maybe u will quicly see the point of mixing, which for me, is beein precise with the beats, when to take in and of both tracks, u know.. basic stuff. Or not. lol
There are a lot of people that just love to stay behind those cdjs/mixer and do a great set to the crowd. It is a different emotion, althought i hvnt performed live yet so i dont know the feeling. |
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