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Hardware vs Software - the real deal

piXan
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Posted : Sep 1, 2006 00:58
i ve seen many threads and posts about how hardware has more power and character and how software sounds cheap and unprofessional. On the other hand , ive seen as many post assuring that software is not only capable of doing hardware does and even go beyond. Obviosuly all hardware enthusiasts are using software and software guys are using some sort of hardware.
What i want to do with this posts is to encourage people on both sides of the story , to give something we cannot only read, but feel and hear.
Hardware masters who claim thats his XX Unit is way beyond anything the mere CPU musician can grasp::::
please post a track or a portion of it, so we can hear and learn from ur knob twisting abilities?""!
And also , software cpu freaks show us how it doesnt matter what u use, but how u use it...
In other words , put music where ur mouth is.
I think im not the only one who wants to hear this.
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diskOtek
Entek

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Posted : Sep 1, 2006 03:38
hey piXan

i ve got a quick example of what u ask.
yahel claims he uses only software at least on his latest releases.
infected on the other side use mostly hardware equipment(as far as i know-correct me).

so take a track from each ones last album and hear the difference!

also,"it doesnt matter what u use but how u use it" goes also to hardware,i would say especially to hardware,so dont separate things!

take care!
piXan
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Posted : Sep 1, 2006 06:02
So if these are the two examples that define it. i dont see any difference.           www.soundcloud.com/elektroakustica/sets/downtempo/
l337
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Posted : Sep 1, 2006 10:34
eeer ya....

we have in our studio, a virus TI, we also have Powercore virus....

They sound very similar except for one thing.. and this is my point in general

The only difference between DIGITAL hardware (virus, nord , blah blah) is the converters ...

All your softsynths are going through the same ocnverters, however any hardware unit has its own converters and therefore a sound difference.

IN the end it comes down to the quality of your converters and how much time you are willing to spend getting your overall sound , sounding epic....

An album which was cut in our studio was done using a complete digital system with the majority of processing down with VST's, however the cd sounds very very analog, and we have had many people being very suprised that it was produced on a digital system....

so quite frankly this hardware - software thing is a load of crap, hardware doesnt mean your work is automatically going to sound brilliant and in the sam3e respect, just because you use softsynths , doesnt mean you are going to sound shit

The thing you have to realise is that the majority of listeners dont even know the difference between hardware/software systems and couldnt give a shit either , they just want to hear AWESOME music....

good production skil and sound is important, but that doesnt make a good song....remember that

I would far rather listen to a brilliantly composed track which isnt pristine clean , than listen to a piece of overcompressed clean shit with no musical or composition skill

....
Colin OOOD
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Posted : Sep 1, 2006 14:17
The Voice of Cod album was produced and mastered using 100% software, and again people who should know better really have asked me which hardware we used.
Having said that, I've recently got myself a Nord Lead and there is just something about the sound - an immediacy and vibrancy - that makes the sound leap out of the speakers in a way that I've not heard with software synths. There is a difference when you look at it through a spectrum analyser too and compare it with a similar sound from a VSTi; the high frequencies extend right up with very little loss of level. In fact depending on the sound you're using it can be more of a bugger to fit in the mix than any other VSTi as it makes the rest of the track sound flat in comparison. I think this may have something to do with the fact that the Nord works at 96KHz but I'm sure the algorithms used internally have an effect too.

A good example of music that uses a lot of Nord is Sasha's airdrawndagger; most of the noises on that album come from the Nord Lead 3.
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AjmaGard
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Posted : Sep 1, 2006 16:55
For me it is solely a question of interface! I like twisting knobs... but also I use quite a bit software. Working with for instance hardware sampler is, at times, too timeconsuming.           *In AjmaGard We Trust*

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diskOtek
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Posted : Sep 1, 2006 19:59
Quote:

On 2006-09-01 06:02, piXan wrote:
So if these are the two examples that define it. i dont see any difference.




anyhow,maybe its not a good example
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