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B_PM_
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Posted : Feb 10, 2005 12:01
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Hello guys,
im going to buy monitors and a keyboard synthetizer. I searched in the forum but i saw nobody that had Novation Remote 25 X-station, only Remote 25, wich had good opinions, does anybody has the X-station and can tell me if its worthy.
Now the monitors, i think im gonna get the Alesis ONE MK2, but i saw on the forum that since it is not active i must buy an amplifier, is that true? Why?
Thanks, c ya |
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sy000321
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Posted : Feb 10, 2005 12:11
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karmaceuticals
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Posted : Feb 10, 2005 12:12
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On 2005-02-10 12:01, B_PM_ wrote:
...since it is not active i must buy an amplifier, is that true? Why?
Thanks, c ya
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well, that's an easy one:
no amplifier + electronic music = no sound 
seriously, simply go for the active version ( http://alesis.com/products/m1active/ ) if you want Alesis MKII Monitors.
greetings
edit: one minute late, pls overlook that |
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Fragletrollet
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Posted : Feb 10, 2005 13:50
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I have Alesis M1 Active Mk2, and my buddy has got the passive version (M1 Mk2) and I absolutely think you should go for the active one. He uses his pair of monitors with an Alesis studioamplifier, wich costs around the same as mine (active) does. I think the active one have alot better sound, the only thing I would say negative about them, is that I think it produces a little to much bass. This may have something to do with mye small room and bad speaker placing. But they play hisgh as hell |
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sy000321
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Posted : Feb 10, 2005 13:52
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On 2005-02-10 13:50, Fragletrollet wrote:
the only thing I would say negative about them, is that I think it produces a little to much bass. |
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does the bass sound clean or muddyed/distorted/etc ?
 roll a joint or STFU :) |
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bandarlog
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Posted : Feb 10, 2005 14:23
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On 2005-02-10 13:50, Fragletrollet wrote:
I think it produces a little to much bass.
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Well if you know that, what's the problem? I have them too an I noticed that too. For me the best way to find the right balance is to compare your songs live on a p.a., at home on your monitors, normal speakers in your car etc... I know producers who just have headphones (no monitors) who work the same way and they get better sound then a lot of people here with fancy monitors.
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sy000321
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Posted : Feb 10, 2005 14:25
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On 2005-02-10 13:50, Fragletrollet wrote:
I think it produces a little to much bass.
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Well if you know that, what's the problem? I have them too an I noticed that too. For me the best way to find the right balance is to compare your songs live on a p.a., at home on your monitors, normal speakers in your car etc... I know producers who just have headphones (no monitors) who work the same way and they get better sound then a lot of people here with fancy monitors.
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i think the "test everywhere" rotine is a must even with the best monitors possible
it's a part of learning "the truth about your monitoring" wich will enable you to mix with more confidence...
roll a joint or STFU :) |
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B_PM_
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Posted : Feb 10, 2005 14:50
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Hey guys, thanks for all the help. Now i found out i have another little problem, hehe, i am from Brasil but im working on Germany, so im gonna buy it here and take it to Brasil, the problem is that the Alesis aktiv weight a lot (about 17 kilos the pair, out of 30 i can carry), what do you think of m-audio's DX5??
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bandarlog
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Posted : Feb 10, 2005 15:26
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I think weight is a bad parameter for choosing monitors. Can't you buy extra room/weight on an airplane? |
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FluoSamsara (Oxygen)
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Posted : Feb 10, 2005 16:28
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if im not mistaken they weight about 17kilos the whole box....
and i also think its very worth having the active ones
they are bi amplified meaning each speaker has 2 integrated amplifiers, one for the subs and one for the mid-highs, and they are made exacly for the speakers
also i think the passive ones have the sub holes in the back, wich will make you need more room space to put them further away from the walls (their room position is REALLY important to get the right sound!) |
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sy000321
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Posted : Feb 10, 2005 16:42
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On 2005-02-10 16:28, FluoSamsara (Oxygen) wrote:
also i think the passive ones have the sub holes in the back, wich will make you need more room space to put them further away from the walls (their room position is REALLY important to get the right sound!)
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the problem with accurate monitoring seems that it's not enough to have good monitors, you need to buy house with good areas too 
roll a joint or STFU :) |
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Fingax
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Posted : Feb 10, 2005 17:29
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On 2005-02-10 12:01, B_PM_ wrote:
Hello guys,
Now the monitors, i think im gonna get the Alesis ONE MK2, but i saw on the forum that since it is not active i must buy an amplifier, is that true? Why?
Thanks, c ya
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Shure they're active. The one thats aren't active is Alesis m1 or monitor1. m1 mk2 are biamplified.
if you want go for it. its good for the money it costs. i've got them and im very pleased  |
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karmaceuticals
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Posted : Feb 10, 2005 17:30
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On 2005-02-10 16:42, sy000321 wrote:
the problem with accurate monitoring seems that it's not enough to have good monitors, you need to buy house with good areas too
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that's so true...
I've got a pair of MKII passive (I know, cheap bastards ), I use them with a professional PA-Amplifier (what a expensive bitch that was 6 years ago) I've got left from the older days.
when I first set them up, the bass was really an overkill, it wasn't really muddy, but way too loud. So I changed the position in the room a bit and now it's fine.
play around with the Position in the room and the room at all. You can easily fuck up even the best sounding monitors if they are placed wrong.
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Fingax
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Posted : Feb 10, 2005 17:34
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On 2005-02-10 14:50, B_PM_ wrote:
Hey guys, thanks for all the help. Now i found out i have another little problem, hehe, i am from Brasil but im working on Germany, so im gonna buy it here and take it to Brasil, the problem is that the Alesis aktiv weight a lot (about 17 kilos the pair, out of 30 i can carry), what do you think of m-audio's DX5??
Thanks,
Marcelo.
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If you buy at Thomman.com you can pay very litlle for the delivery and you receive them in brasil and they're German i bought mine from there and i paid around 6 euros for delivery only! but i think its because its all europ. but its worth to check it for brasil as well..
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B_PM_
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Posted : Feb 10, 2005 19:20
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The problem on trying to send to Brasil by mail is that the (excuse me the language) FUCKIN goverment asks for 70% taxes, so it will almost double the price. |
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