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Posted : Jul 22, 2011 06:21:41
So yeah when I was wee little teeny bopped this was one of the first styles of EDM I was introduced to thru a French friend who gave me heaps of the ol' Thunderdome compilations. I caught up with him for the first time in 8 years last night and we were having a laugh about those days (now he & I are both much more into progressive EDM & DnB). He then pulled out a surprise he'd brought from O/S which was two 3 CD box sets of hardcore mixed by DJ Buzz Fuzz, and we blasted them & drank tequila and vodka until my wife came out cursing the day our mothers had pushed us out as it was 4am and she had to go to a work meeting at 7:30am
Gotta say despite the lack of culture & quality in the tunes I really enjoyed the flashback. Anyone here ever listen to this music back in the early days?
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Posted : Jul 22, 2011 06:24
BTW just gotta say I dunno what the scene is like today but around '99-'00 I went to some massive festivals in Europe and it was one of the least racist/homophobic etc. scenes I went to.
I know one I was at in the Netherlands had a bunch of skin heads rock up, and they got abused by the MCs & then security sorted them out (painfully) I hate you, you hate me, we are all so hap hap happy!
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Posted : Jul 22, 2011 20:40
hard techno is/was big here in Atlanta too. Not as strong as a movement now, but back in the day it was..wait is this the same as "Hard Dance" lol. Anyway, i was in to / writing dnb in the 1999-2005 range
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Posted : Jul 23, 2011 20:19
we need more dnb around these parts.
diffuse audio out of chapel hill have some hard techno.
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Posted : Jul 24, 2011 05:07
I meant Dutch hardcore & gabber. YouTube DJ Dano, Outblast, Earfist etc. for me it was & is like the punk of EDM. Aggressive attitude, fast but somewhat simple production but creates a crazy high energy feeling.
DnB, at least the more in-depth neurofunk etc. is much more complicated, intricate & less obnoxious. The cheesy over produced DnB like current Hospital Records release are just horrid though!!
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Posted : Jul 24, 2011 06:02
there's alot of things in EDM i'd call punk.
hell, i equate the parties and music i do as punk for psykids.
i consider myself a psypunk, yet i spin forest….
drum and bass can be the punk, or dubstep can be…. it goes on and on, i think it's just part of the time you're in or where you are….
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Posted : Jul 24, 2011 08:02
for me the punky attitude goes for The Delta, MidiMiliz and X-Dream ...
mkay let's see dano...
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Posted : Jul 24, 2011 14:10
yeah back in the late 90's & early part of 2000's I went to Holland and all the punters & artists in the scene were true punks, most had come from being heavily involved in the punk scene and just looking to make something with new technology as the punk scene was dying out a fair bit.
Lots of mohawks, leather, chains & attitude. Nothing to bad, mostly just very much anarchy, chaos & general anti-society. I got to meet Dano back then & chat, one of the nicest blokes I ever met. He said he was just making music that was good to get really wasted either drunk or drugs and to lose all negative energy to. Sounded a lot like what many punk & metal bands said.
BTW the woman at the hardcore/gabber gigs back then were just WOWWWWWW!!! never saw some many gorgeous blondes in one place
He was asked to remix a track original by metal band Fear Factory, this was the results
I still like it!
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Posted : Jul 25, 2011 03:30
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On 2011-07-24 06:02, dreadieg wrote:
there's alot of things in EDM i'd call punk.
hell, i equate the parties and music i do as punk for psykids.
i consider myself a psypunk, yet i spin forest….
drum and bass can be the punk, or dubstep can be…. it goes on and on, i think it's just part of the time you're in or where you are….
Drum & bass ethos is as far from punk as you could imagine, and by claiming it's so you are insulting a lot of people who worked hard to make that scene what it was and is today.
it's like going and claiming that Norwegian Black Metal is similar to AC/DC style of rock when they have nothing in common whatsoever.
You need to look into these scene a bit more than just image and vague ethos of a few before you can make such statements and judgements.
Also read up on what real punk was about. Not the stuff that's coming out today that people call punk, but the real stuff that Sex Pistols & Dead Kennedy's were doing in their heyday.
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Posted : Jul 25, 2011 03:33
The acid techno scene in the U.K by the Liberator's etc. was def. heavily punk influenced as well.
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Posted : Jul 25, 2011 21:57
Sorry but for me this music is total nonsense and causes me a headache and i never understood how it got a big following in the Netherlands,Germany and UK many years ago.
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Posted : Jul 26, 2011 00:41
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Sorry but for me this music is total nonsense and causes me a headache and i never understood how it got a big following in the Netherlands,Germany and UK many years ago.
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Posted : Jul 26, 2011 02:45
i don't like hardcore but hardstyle rocks donkey balls !
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Posted : Jul 26, 2011 05:54
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Sorry but for me this music is total nonsense and causes me a headache and i never understood how it got a big following in the Netherlands,Germany and UK many years ago.
People enjoy simplistic music because they can have, get high and drunk and party hard without turning into pontificating wankers claiming that certain styles, substances and ways of life make you some kind of higher being.
The reason why I dropped out of having anything to socially with most people in the psychedelic trance scene is because most are pontificating wankers who run around claiming they achieve enlightenment from electronic music designed to enhance the effect of psychedelic & illicit drugs.
I can sit down with my friends who listen to DnB, Hiphop, Rap, Metal, Rock, Post rock, classical, progressive EDM, house, pop etc. and not be judged on what I like but have fun chats about tunes & what a great night out we had together.
With man a psytrance folk I sit down and say oh yeah man I heard this awesome new track by DJ Dano and they give me a half hour tosser diatribe on why it's shite music & how it does nothing to enlighten one's experience of this plane of existence and then they go toss off over how great they feel about themselves I hate you, you hate me, we are all so hap hap happy!
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Posted : Jul 27, 2011 02:51
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