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Hallucination ----> What form of Art ?
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centerOcyclone
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Posted : Sep 4, 2005 00:47
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hi p.e.m.p jus saw ur site, and i've sent a mail for registration. loved ur initiative.
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P.E.M.P Vision
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Posted : Sep 4, 2005 01:03
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On 2005-09-04 00:47, centerOcyclone wrote:
hi p.e.m.p jus saw ur site, and i've sent a mail for registration. loved ur initiative.
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the pemp site is buggered, becuase i'm too recked... will be up again tonite 
P.E.M.P is a vision for all to share!
please ask for pemp email...!
remember Goerge Orwell!
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rave_girl
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Posted : Sep 6, 2005 20:41
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@jlof, dude shower some more interesting knowledge..... |
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enola
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Posted : Dec 31, 2005 03:48
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I just love surealism, i dont know why, but i do. Sure it expresses throu my art when i'am creating. It has something else that cant be captured by a simple mind, it has an deeper understanding. About what? Only the one who has made it knows.
Take this one i made for an example, take your time..
http://juha.manni.se/manni.se/images/drawings/alienation02s.jpg
When i look at it, i notice that i dont have a single clue what made me paint what i did. Then what it is?! I have painted it, but i dont know why or what it is. But it always make me feel warm, and spooky. And thats whats important to me, its not realy what you see, it is what you feel when your looking at it... Or?
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inklingsutra
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 14:51
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Hallucinations:
There are no differences but differences of degree between different degrees of difference and no difference.
@@@ Hallucinations is an illusion that every humen beign can visulize/experience only through you brain imagination power...some enjoys it...some fears it...other cant understand it @@@
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nucleardropz
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Posted : Jan 21, 2006 06:09
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this is one kewl topic
Always sat back and wondered
feels good
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begreen
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Posted : May 4, 2006 17:35
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many artists in the past took entheogenes
and they were placed in all the different types of style =:-) or i m wrong who knows =)
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werlin
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Posted : May 5, 2006 00:09
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hallucinations must be surrealism in its purest form
compulsive beauty with no sketch just apearing out of the blue
at least those were the grounds for surrealism as andre breton descrived!!! |
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begreen
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Posted : May 5, 2006 01:17
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  right and out
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Pyite
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Posted : May 5, 2006 17:13
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I don't believe hallucinations are art at all. I like Kurt Vonnegut's definition of art from his novel "Timequake". I'll paraphrase it (poorly) here:
Art is a dialogue between the artist and the viewer/listener. A painting isn't art until someone observes it. A hallucination can be beautiful, scary, moving, sad, hilarious, or awe-inspiring........but it isn't art. If someone chooses to depict his hallucinations in the form of a painting, then yes, that painting is art, but I don't feel that the hallucination itself is art any more than my daydreams are art.
Peace
Kelly
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DigitalDancer
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Posted : May 5, 2006 19:21
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Actually Ive read on alex grey's page and seen in his world spirit video that he uses lsd to get inspiration but does not actually paint while he's triping. On his page he shows some sketches that he made on lsd and they are quite simple. His amazing paintings are created day after day for months and months...do you really think he trips on acid everyday???....
Anyway the point being... you can surely find inspiration by using hallucinogens because they do open your mind to sense without some filters, as do some other mind enhancing activities like meditation, exercise, reading, etc. But the act of hallucinating is defenetly not art! Its just an experience.
"If our gods and our hopes are nothing but scientific phenomena, then it must be said that our love is scientific as well"
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rave_girl
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Posted : May 21, 2006 21:02
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On 2006-05-05 17:13, Pyite wrote:
I don't believe hallucinations are art at all.
Art is a dialogue between the artist and the viewer/listener. A painting isn't art until someone observes it. A hallucination can be beautiful, scary, moving, sad, hilarious, or awe-inspiring........but it isn't art. If someone chooses to depict his hallucinations in the form of a painting, then yes, that painting is art, but I don't feel that the hallucination itself is art any more than my daydreams are art.
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i guess i believe in wat its written above... its true actually... hallucination is not an art coz its a kinda feeling & visions of colours, designs, waves, etc etc... wateva hallucinated & then put on a paper, forms art!! hmmm...
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pixie satinka
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Posted : May 28, 2006 11:03
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@ rave_girl....true
...hallucination is not planned...its not forced...in the sense...u dont set out to hallucinate about certain things....they just happen...
n we take from those experiences n put down in paper...whatever form writing or drawin...n even music...tht is the art...the plannin n thought tht goes into how to place words...or which colors to use...what kind of samples to choose.
in the end hallucinations will definately add to the art....but i doubt theyre an art form in itself...
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Gopendragon
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Posted : Jun 5, 2006 16:26
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I believe that halicinations is the art of subconcious mind...
when I am under the influence of halucinogenic substance,it is up to my mind about what kind of hallucination and how that weird form of visual think would apper in front of my eyes,depends on how I see things in life,what I have passed trhough life,negative positive experiences,things that have maken big changes in life and felt much sensitive with sences wich have been kept in subconcious as important moments,etc...
The art here is how the mind will make the perfect combination between all these things under much conciously parametres and create in front of your eyes the pefect halucination as a vision that comes from the depthness of the soul...a message from your inner self wich speaks through a visionary language...
for example I love to see psychedelicious fractal art,I have enjoyed tons of fractalic art paths,my mind have gave a strong connection of psychedelic music with fractals,the sound became one with the deep fractalic paths....lsd help me to open gates in my mind wich was the art of halucinations,the time I dance and trip with trance I see visions of fractals conected with the rythm of music ,each diff sound is captured inside that moving sourse of a fractalic cyclone,and my halucinations became so creative full of deeper meaning and a logical mathematic sence...
my subconcious mind is full of fractals and such as those thought I mentioned,so as I corperate my subconcious with unconciousnes and conciousnses together,visionary miracle halucinatios are produced the moment of my altered states of conciousnes wich express the most crazy psychedelicious dreams....
in the end if you have talent to keep those realms in your mind and express it in a paper or anywhere else captured in a material piece,then sure is great art...
~~~~~~~namaskar~~~~~~~~~
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hippy
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Posted : Jun 6, 2006 17:36
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plain and simple definition.
Hallucinations ---------~~~*~~~-----------
The mind......... AN ARTIST
You ....... The Observer
-------Its a basic Consious and Subconscious Thing -------
And yes, hallucinations Can vary in forms or art, its where the mind wanders!
Boom Shankar
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