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Halion Sonic 2 = NI Massive
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Soul's Alien
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Posted : Apr 22, 2014 01:26:58
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Just bought Halion Sonic 2 couple of months ago and it sounds very good. All the presets and build-in synthesizers/drum machine make it even more excited BUT comparing it with NI Massive all my excitement go down in the drain. :-/
I produce psytrance music and Massive give me amazing psychedelic sounds which I can't found/create with HS2.
Am I missing something or is actually HS2 different from Massive?
Please correct if I am wrong. I do want like HS2 even more and be able to create such sounds.
So my final question is:
Is HS2 any close to sound creation as Native Instrument Massive?
Many thanks
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Apr 22, 2014 13:06
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On 2014-04-22 01:26:58, Soul's Alien wrote:
Is HS2 any close to sound creation as Native Instrument Massive?
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Answer is no! Massive relies on wavetable synthesis, along with phase distortion. Plus, the way it handles modulation is rather unique... |
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Soul's Alien
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Posted : Apr 22, 2014 16:50
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splikz
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Posted : Apr 22, 2014 17:26
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halion is the equivalent to ni kontakt libraries or nexus...
with synth capabilities it would be an omnisphere brother.
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Soul's Alien
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Posted : Apr 24, 2014 10:37
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massive is very strong on its oscillator configuration allowing looping, efx inserts and feedback in the program structure. Nothing that halion sonic has can compete with that.
massive is also one of the most powerfull engines for some years on that point and very popular also in the common crowd for that reason.
Other brands are battling the now aged massive on that point.
halion sonic is a workstation. In my opinion it is not marketed-wise in any competition with massive.
It outperformes massive in many ways by offering a sample engine, granular engine and drumstuff and so on that is not present in massive, and allowing you to make combinations of those in to a single sound concept that is matched to your needs.
but: The analog|digital synths that are also offered in Halion sonic are indeed not a match for massive though
On the Halion 5 front. There is certainly competition there (motu mach 5 and kontakt is also going in the same direction and so on) but in my opinion, given that new user interface that you certainly should try on multiple screens, and thinking about the engines integrated within it... i think there is a reason why they are having this price winner awarded by several reviewers. (and i do not think there is any reason for steinberg to buy those guys off, because this is indeed a very serious beast imho on the vsti front)
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Apr 24, 2014 12:59
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It's actually the envelopes that feature a "loop mode".
Massive is mainly about Wave Tables and a very flexible routing and modulation options. Then it's got a very nice feedback circuit that you can route to different stages of the signal path... |
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snowdogg
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Posted : Apr 29, 2014 00:13
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get both! |
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Soul's Alien
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Posted : Apr 29, 2014 11:21
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On 2014-04-29 00:13, snowdogg wrote:
get both!
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massive is very strong on its oscillator configuration allowing looping, efx inserts and feedback in the program structure. Nothing that halion sonic has can compete with that.
massive is also one of the most powerfull engines for some years on that point and very popular also in the common crowd for that reason.
Other brands are battling the now aged massive on that point.
halion sonic is a workstation. In my opinion it is not marketed-wise in any competition with massive.
It outperformes massive in many ways by offering a sample engine, granular engine and drumstuff and so on that is not present in massive, and allowing you to make combinations of those in to a single sound concept that is matched to your needs.
but: The analog|digital synths that are also offered in Halion sonic are indeed not a match for massive though
On the Halion 5 front. There is certainly competition there (motu mach 5 and kontakt is also going in the same direction and so on) but in my opinion, given that new user interface that you certainly should try on multiple screens, and thinking about the engines integrated within it... i think there is a reason why they are having this price winner awarded by several reviewers. (and i do not think there is any reason for steinberg to buy those guys off, because this is indeed a very serious beast imho on the vsti front)
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