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Haiti Earthquake - Disaster Relief (PLEASE READ!!!!!!)
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Inner Demon
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Posted : Jan 15, 2010 18:38
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On 2010-01-15 15:16, PsyTerrorist wrote:
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On 2010-01-15 15:04, vegetal wrote:
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On 2010-01-15 15:00, Inner Demon wrote:
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On 2010-01-15 01:53, Xolvexs wrote:
does anyone have sounnd samples recorded? they would make a great samples for dark psy tracks.... you can donate all you like but remember the dead are not coming back at least not in the form you last saw them..and the survivors will survive exra money will not mean that they live longer..its not a video game where you can buy an extra life because you have more points and no there is no bonus round...mario is dead
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I don't know what one has to write to be banned from the forum, but if I had been moderator....
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Exactly my thought....
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why, just because he had a different opinion than others? he didnt attacked anyone, just expressed other view. i agree that sarcasm is not the best way to express yourself in a tragedy like that, but i also feel he has a point.
i get more pissed off with others trying to make a 'compilation' to gain some visibility with this tragedy. bizarre
and this topic shouldnt be here in the first place, theres no connection with trance, so you just opened the door...
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There are no 'opinions' to be had about a crisis situation like this one. Its bare-bone human survival and it shows us what we're made of - you can choose to help or not. I feel no sympathy for people who are unable to even be empathic or show some sign that they comprehend the magnitude of such tragedies. Really I just wanna kick them in the nuts.
C'mon people, donate so they can 'buy some extra lives' (or, in the actual world: clean water, medicine, shelter, food...) |
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Xolvexs
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Posted : Jan 15, 2010 19:03
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well people raised a lot of money for the tsunami victims, 2002 earthquake in india, and hundreds if not thousands of non-profits were set up, people donated millions ...unfortunately much of the money that was collected never made it to the victims and survivors...yes it is a disaster but disasters happen everyday..people get all emo'ed out when disaster strikes and they feel they can save lives and basically they contribute to satisfy their ego..feel good factor. being a part of a non-profit and helping those who are suffering adds to your coolness factor...i mean if you really want to help take flight to Haiti and join the rescue efforts ....merely using your credit card and your surplus cash will not change anything...like i said its not a video game, your cash is worth nothing...contributing to charities will not make Haiti a rich nation...if anything it will only add to their despair...if you are really concerned book a flight and go their yourself...also making compilation is great but do you think the people of Haiti are going to listen to the compilation? if you want to make music make music which the survivors and victims can listen to ...music which temporarily reduces their suffering...its no point making music which they may not comprehend. also how much money will you actually raise from the compilation....at best $2000 ....and if we assume all of it will be donated , there is something called tax which take away nothing less than 10%, leaving $1800 from that around 10-20% would be used by the non-profit to offset its marketing expense...so your contribution of $ 2000 will in reality be like $1500 in Haiti and if a person is distributing necessities he too will charge money for doing so...i repeat you guys think its a video game where you can buy an extra life using your bonus points..take flight to Haiti if you are not doing that you are doing nothing...
you guys are just trying to falsely boost your ego and earn karma...
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PsyTerrorist
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Posted : Jan 15, 2010 19:25
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of course i feel empathy, and feel sorry about them. its terrible to see those images. i just see things in another way. but of course its an emergency situation, and the international comunity has to help.
i just think they should take care of themselves more. its not just a geologic 'accident', but a country that is in crisis during decades and decades. haiti is not only in crisis right now, they are always in crisis. revolutions, civil wars, corruption, rage, etc.
i know people want to help, its a great thing, but first haiti and other places need to wake up, and want to change theyr situation. i just think this come with time.
but of course in an emergency all humanitary help is good. |
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PsyTerrorist
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Posted : Jan 15, 2010 19:30
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not to mention the hypocrisy of many people and theyr respective countries in treatment with those places. people in this forum has prejudice even against people with 'bad english', and them come talking about humanism and stuff. first learn to treat with respect people from 3rd world countries and not only 'giving money'. |
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PsyTerrorist
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Posted : Jan 15, 2010 19:32
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On 2010-01-15 15:04, demoniac wrote:
I call all artist, let's make a charity compilation, mo genre is matter, progg, full on, darkpsy, ambient...
Let's pick up tracks for digital download, i have my own shop, i will sell there for no cost, all money will be giwen for charity!
Let's make this in 2 days, so we react fast!
Send all tracks in this ftp in mp3 format:
# FTP Username: Haiti@activemeditationmusic.com
# Password: charity
# FTP Server: ftp.activemeditationmusic.com
# FTP Server Port: 21
contact me at demoniacinsomniac@hotmail.com
Pls support this...
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instead why dont you look for haiti artists and djs, and try to offer them a job so they can work and have a decent life, instead 'throwing coins' for them? |
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demoniac
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Posted : Jan 15, 2010 19:45
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Inner Demon
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Posted : Jan 15, 2010 19:58
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I'm sorry but this is too easy...
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On 2010-01-15 19:03, Xolvexs wrote:
well people raised a lot of money for the tsunami victims, 2002 earthquake in india, and hundreds if not thousands of non-profits were set up, people donated millions ...unfortunately much of the money that was collected never made it to the victims and survivors...
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So because there is a certain percentage of overhead, inefficiencies and corruption we should just not assist at all? Are you human? Have you checked?
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yes it is a disaster but disasters happen everyday..
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No, they don't.
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people get all emo'ed out when disaster strikes and they feel they can save lives and basically they contribute to satisfy their ego..feel good factor. being a part of a non-profit and helping those who are suffering adds to your coolness factor...i mean if you really want to help take flight to Haiti and join the rescue efforts
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You're still the only one mentioning coolness and ego...
Also, if you really wanna mess things up you should go to Haiti. Or you can call and ask the aid organizations if they want untrained tourists with no skills to help, running around in the disaster areas while they are trying to organize the rescue efforts?
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....merely using your credit card and your surplus cash will not change anything...like i said its not a video game, your cash is worth nothing...
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Yes it is. Rescue workers need resources. Resources cost money. That's what you pay for. That's the general idea.
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contributing to charities will not make Haiti a rich nation...
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Yeah, you see that's not the intention. Disaster aid and general aid are completely different things. I agree that general aid on a consistent basis due to a dysfunctional economy is largely useless or even makes the situation worse. Disaster aid is paying for instant action and resources so they can have things like clean water in the next coming days and weeks...in this case a population that has no reserves on their own.
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also making compilation is great but do you think the people of Haiti are going to listen to the compilation?
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You should do stand-up 
or lay off the acid.
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if you want to make music make music which the survivors and victims can listen to ...music which temporarily reduces their suffering...its no point making music which they may not comprehend. also how much money will you actually raise from the compilation....at best $2000 ....and if we assume all of it will be donated , there is something called tax which take away nothing less than 10%, leaving $1800 from that around 10-20% would be used by the non-profit to offset its marketing expense...so your contribution of $ 2000 will in reality be like $1500 in Haiti and if a person is distributing necessities he too will charge money for doing so...
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Uh, obviously its about the money. And its $1500 more than 0. For a measly 50 bucks you can clean 12 000 litres of water....
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i repeat you guys think its a video game where you can buy an extra life using your bonus points..take flight to Haiti if you are not doing that you are doing nothing...
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Actually, if you want to make the situation more chaotic, take a flight to Haiti. Unless of course you can go without eating, sleeping, drinking and other stuff like that.
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you guys are just trying to falsely boost your ego and earn karma...
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Mmm...cos we listen to psy so we must all believe in karma
Sounds more like your excuse to be a lame wiseass without a clue, doing nothing to help those in need. |
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Xolvexs
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Posted : Jan 15, 2010 20:17
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American Airlines will transport any doctor or nurse to Haiti free of charge, call +1 212-697-9767, please help spread the word now.
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Addictive Elements
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Posted : Jan 16, 2010 08:16
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terribly sorry for appearing to be so negative and pessimistic and all, but realistically speaking , do you expect to raise sooo much money so as to help and make a difference..
Firstly the psy music buying scene is so bad that even good album sales rarely make enough money for artists...
So IMHO i really think that ur endeavour, even though noble in intent, would rarely make much, if not any difference.
No bad vibes people...dis is my opinion.
IMHO prayers and good wishes would serve the purpose better !
----- Hippies...they wanna save the earth....but all they ever do is smoke pot ---- |
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Yidam
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Posted : Jan 16, 2010 09:15
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Yidam
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Posted : Jan 16, 2010 09:23
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btw... rather than only sell a CD which is obviously the last means anyone could chose to raise funds, are any organisers interested in doing co-ordinated worldwide fund raising events? ... similar way in which Earthdance is done? Maybe to co-ordinate with the launch of the CD to give it a real platform?
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Inner Demon
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Posted : Jan 16, 2010 13:51
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@xvolvex: Cool man!
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IMHO prayers and good wishes would serve the purpose better !
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Every penny makes a difference.
I saw last night that apparently food is the most lacking essential at the moment. You can't eat good wishes.... |
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vegetal
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Posted : Jan 16, 2010 16:35
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TheOneWhoMakesYouCrazy
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Posted : Jan 16, 2010 16:40
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On 2010-01-16 09:23, Yidam wrote:
btw... rather than only sell a CD which is obviously the last means anyone could chose to raise funds, are any organisers interested in doing co-ordinated worldwide fund raising events? ... similar way in which Earthdance is done? Maybe to co-ordinate with the launch of the CD to give it a real platform?
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seriously,that'S a heavy idea.Sth that could work really useful.Hope it will find cooperators organizers. |
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Yidam
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Posted : Jan 16, 2010 17:03
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Hope so too. We're in the process of raising small amounts from jazz and rock shows but it would be really amazing to have a coordinated worldwide psytrance event dedicated solely to this cause.
Trying to work one out for late Feb/early March, so shall keep posting here in case any other countries want to jump on board. Plan on keeping this completely transparent deal so we'll have the budget, the charity and paperwork open to any other organisations interested in joining up.
If any graphic designers, editors, web designers would like to help it would be greatly appreciated. Any musicians currently in India and interested in participating, please pm me. |
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