XwhiteRabbitX
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Posted : Nov 25, 2009 12:34
The so called scientists claiming that Global warming is man made are mostly bureaucrats and those whois directly gaining personal and financial interest from this hoax.
The list of scientists claiming that man has little or nothing to do with global warming can be found here:
and thats just in the US, more than 31K signers, including 9000 Phd. There is a huge consensus among climatologist and, astrophysics and others that the SUN, yes, The SUN!!! is responsible for the lastest climate changes going over.
This is crucially importance because most of us do not know the consequences of the claim that man is responsible for global warming, and specially the financial ones.
Today, emerging by the false hypocritical pig, mr Al (i invented the internet) gore, the Carbon tax is becoming a reality for us all. I can see right here in this forum people measuring their carbon emissions without understanding that by doing so, they are promoting the idea that for carbon we will be taxed, for whatever activity that we might do. one of those activities is, Breathing.
Those tree hugers dont understand that they are being used by major corporations and financial interests to create a false panic which will endeavor more profits to those shameful corporations.
Man had nothing to do with global warming. Carbon is the fourth most abundant chemical element in the universe. It is present everywhere in our planet from the atmosphere, biosphere, and on earth itself.
Cleaning the earth does not have anything to do with carbon tax. Carbon tax will not clean the ocean from the litter we put in it. Carbon tax wont wont clean the earth from industrial and human waste. Carbon tax, will only enslave us all for doing anything, because carbon is everywhere.
People should wake up.
Vermeee
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Posted : Nov 25, 2009 12:43
yes
the NWO conspirancy THEORY seems to be approaching each day :/
now after the fraude have been reveled , the next copenhagem meetin will be the point where we ll see if the world will take some ACTION bout all those hoax and conspirancy or if we ll just keep pretendin everything s right and our politics are good wishin the good for all citisens......
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Vermeee
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Posted : Nov 25, 2009 14:41
lol more news
now the scientists are tellin that those hackers are tryin to sabotage the copenhagem sumit and those documents are all fake
ow my fuckin god, now everybody will believe it and we will keep livin as the globam warmin s man made and now ( as said above by white rabbit ) we are gonna have to start payin to breath...
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-Abatwa-
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Posted : Nov 25, 2009 14:52
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On 2009-11-25 10:36, Vermeee wrote:
thats the point. pollutin aint good for us HUMAN,
earth doesnt care, GLOBAL WARMING ? bullshit
Earth doesnt care what? That the humans have exploited its resources to a degree unseen in its history? You dont need facts or scientists tellin you shit to know what we are doing and where we have gone since the agricultural-industrial revolution is not sustainable in the long term.
I dont care whether the carbon emitted changes the climate or causes global warming. The trend in human consumption and energy resources need to change. We are causing immense amount of harm to the earth and that has got to change. I dont want to see bareass areas full of deforestation where once millions of species and ecosystems flourished.
I am on no side, just pointing out dangerous parts in the logic where if people decide carbon emitted isnt causing climate change, we can continue our consumption trends and continue exploiting.
There has emerged a enormous industry and people/groups who profit from global warming issue, and I have always taken the "green business" stuff with a grain of salt, so it is not a big surprise that stuff like these may come up. Of course the path to take on the environmental movement and the research done needs to be reevaluated and questioned after this, but we must not go back where we started.
peace
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XwhiteRabbitX
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Posted : Nov 25, 2009 16:45
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On 2009-11-25 14:52, -Abatwa- wrote:
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On 2009-11-25 10:36, Vermeee wrote:
thats the point. pollutin aint good for us HUMAN,
earth doesnt care, GLOBAL WARMING ? bullshit
We are causing immense amount of harm to the earth and that has got to change. I dont want to see bareass areas full of deforestation where once millions of species and ecosystems flourished.
exactly, and that is the sheer reason to focus on the real damage to the earth and not the shameful arguments that the environmental movement is doing this days.
Carbon dioxide has been an excuse for the IMF and the UN to put strict prohibitions on Africa, from developing any type of industry that will sustain the people. hundreds of millions are living in poverty strictly due to this cheap propaganda.
As of now, man has no practical solutions to maintain a decent life for all 6 billion people alive today, and those who will come next.
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Posted : Nov 25, 2009 17:39
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Earth doesnt care what? That the humans have exploited its resources to a degree unseen in its history?
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yes in fact it doesnt care at all, earth has been here lot longer before us, have survived polar shift, earth uakes, glacial eras, etc etc
why do u think human beins are so egeocentrics and powerful to have the capacity of destroyin it ?
tho we have the capacity of makin from it a HELL ( a place with no condition of life) and thats what we are doin...
sadly the alert here s only to show people that big guys are profitin from all those lie and bullshit bout GLOBAL WARM and now they are going to start a lot of campaing to RECICLY THE world based on lies and we , normal citisens are the one who are going to pay for it..
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I have always taken the "green business" stuff with a grain of salt, so it is not a big surprise that stuff like these may come up
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im glad u are a smart guy tho there are many people around that doesnt have a clue about all those fraudes, so lets share our knowledge with them...
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The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion was published as fact. It was proved to be stolen bits of political satire unrelated to Jews, yet even today, some people still claim this is fact. The amount of hate it caused, the amount of genuine mistrust is led to, the damage to rational thinking in the subject was irreversible. So, these "hacked e-mails" could either be genuine, or they could be just a part of a slander campaign. The damage is already done, and even if someone could prove all those emails were a lie (or prove they are true), it doesn't matter anymore.
Frankly, if anyone has money to pay in order to see results, it is the oil companies, the car companies, the military industries, and transportation companies. All of which will pay heavily (and do so) due to their own interests which are not to raise costs for development, creation of more expensive engines (and therefor cars, planes, trucks, tanks, etc), crushing competing solution (anyone know why electric cars are only starting to gain momentum now as opposed to 20-30 years ago?), and the need to work with new contacts instead of established old ones. They are using all of their political might, advertising dollars, and international backing to avoid going green, which could be a disaster for many of the said groups (recent example: the US auto industry - in an auto TV show one of their experts claimed that a hybrid car with a 2.2ltr engine was very efficient as that engine is too small to power a car on a highway).
I am sure there are other organizations from the green side that use cheap shot tactics and force results too. This is the nature of the world, and has been that way for ages (I remember an old study about India being the Garden of Eden, with such claims as peacocks may be birds of Eden strengthening that claim. This study, from a university, no less, was sponsored by a travel company). There are many people with a reason to pick one side or the other. Let's for a moment ignore these facts, ignore the fact that money is influencing studies on both sides, and ignore all preconceptions:
While there is an effect of the sun involved, is it not prudent to put some effort in case we are making things worse?
